then you will like the forest of Cameroon ... i never thought mosquitoes was that bad in Canada but never tried Greg s place ... i dot not like that much no see ums ...
what is the best caliber for a lower recoil, easy to get ammo for,deer rifle.
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then you will like the forest of Cameroon ... i never thought mosquitoes was that bad in Canada but never tried Greg s place ... i dot not like that much no see ums ...
Huh, the refuelers here pumped 1000 liters of Jet A into a skeeter before they realized is wasn't a plane.
Our bugs don't usually start until the third week of June, first its mosquitoes near the end of June, then bull dogs (horse flies) come in July, and the sand flies soon after that, then it snows.
love the pic Mike.
The Great Northern Air Show, runs May through Sept! I figure 500-1,000 yarding with irons is challenging but anyone can learn, rather where I take pride in doing it is suceeding despite the "distractions".
nice one there too Angus.
our bugs are called Dracula and one is enough to took the craziness of a Man lol ... they can be bad here but not as the ones i met in Saguenay ... anyway i will let you know soon we are going for the solstice around the artic circle this year then i will be able to say i survived to NWT ones too lol ..
Stop off at a lab first and grab a dozen bags of frozen plasma cause you are gonna need a transfusion when
our "blackbirds" are done with ya!!!!!!!!!
Small town?? Yer a friggin' metropolis next to a small town near here that still carries every cartridge known to man, I am sure.
I was having trouble getting some soft point x39mm and I walked into this place in Glendon, AB (Population 489 as of 2011) and they had plenty on the shelf. Great little mom and pop store. I've gone back tons of times just to support them.
Even my "city" of Cold Lake boasts a rousing near 14,000 people (again, 2011 census).
I grew up in a "small town" in NS that had less than 1,000 residents. You aren't even close to a "small town" by Canadian standards, Brother.
Ardent
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Look forward to it- the nice thing about home versus Africa and the Amazon is the bugs don't carry life threatening diseases. They just drive you to suicide and kill you quickly.
Perhaps I should have said city instead of town because you are right #30,000+ is a lot of people compared to all the smaller towns of southern BC (or any other parts of Canada).
I spent the better of my youth in a town (village actually) of about #1,100 people and then moved to BC's capital city Victoria (over #250,000 at the time) for the remainder of my youth and I can tell you all the shooting/hiking/dirt biking... done as a kid in the countryside surrounding the village made the saying true: "You can take the boy out of the country but you can't take the country out of the boy".
I moved back to a town (small city) where I can get out to the wilderness in just minutes from downtown. The benefits that a decent size town/city has to offer with lots of wilderness close by and the ability to safely/legally shoot firearms only minutes from home.
However I do suspect my next move will take me a little farther out so shooting on my property will be acceptable.
Getting back to the availability of ammo. in small town southern BC for example, is not like it once was since LGS's are few and far between here in southern BC and you won't find ammo. easily at a little Mom & Pop shop/gas station... (unless it's a popular hunting destination more like central/northern BC is) probably due to stricter firearms sales regulations and the decline in local purchasers (more or buying bulk ammo. through sites like CGN here) I'm assuming.
However if you're area is large enough to support a Can.-Tire/Wal-Mart/Wholesale Sports... your good to go.
Okay back to our regular programming.
Cheers D
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- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
The obvious choice is the 308 Win.
You can get ammo anywhere, it reloads easily, has a wider variety of bullet choices, and rifles than most, and can be used on anything in North America, although some would like more for big bears.
You can load it down to 30-30 performance levels, for low recoil and less noise, and use 30-30 bullets for dynamite performance on deer and black bear, or up to close to 30-06 levels.
You can get ammo anywhere, it reloads easily, has a wider variety of bullet choices, and rifles than most, and can be used on anything in North America, although some would like more for big bears.
You can load it down to 30-30 performance levels, for low recoil and less noise, and use 30-30 bullets for dynamite performance on deer and black bear, or up to close to 30-06 levels.
How does a FN .30/30 bullet expand any more quickly or thoroughly than an cup & core SP at a any given velocity... there might be a case if they were travelling so slow that there was zero expansion, in which case the flat nose might cause more trauma, but that is not likely the case when loading for hunting.
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nomad 68
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I have a six and a quarter lb .243 and it is an absolute pleasure to shoot. I just bought a savage 99f in .308 which i have not fired yet.Somehow, i don't expect the same pleasure when i squeeze the trigger on this one.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
All big game bullets have an optimal velocity envelope for terminal performance in a fluid medium like a game animal. While the useful upper limit covers a broad impact velocity range, the lower useful limit is usually within a couple of hundred feet per second. As a rule, expanding big game bullets do not expand very much once the impact velocity drops below 1700 fps, and it matters not whether they were designed to withstand a muzzle velocity of 2200 fps, or 3500 fps. No jacketed cup and core game bullet has a pure lead core, which would conceivably expand more rapidly than a harder alloy. But I can think of one bonded core, solid shank bullet, that uses a pure copper jacket and a pure lead core, that has proven successful on heavy/dangerous game, yet it doesn't expand much once impact velocity drops below 1700 fps. Due to the soft jacket and core, this bullet should upset easier than the typical jacketed .30/30 bullet with it's harder alloy jacket and core, and its typical use usually involves an impact velocity in common with a 170 gr .30/30 bullet.
Expansion typical from low velocity impacts . . .
Compared to the full expansion typical of the same bullet impacting at 2300 fps, with fly weight Barnes XLC and old style X Bullet for comparison . . .
The problem that long range game shooters have is uniform low impact velocity bullet performance. This is the niche that Berger has attempted to fill with its line of fragile game bullets, and if any bullet will produce acceptable low impact velocity performance, it will be these, not a hard alloy .30/30 bullet.
I have not been able to find an official confirmation of this, but Hornady makes two 150 grain SST bullets, with one off catalogue numbers, one is marked as ".300 Savage (#30303)." What I have been told, is that the .300 Savage SST was constructed with a thinner jacket and softer core for more reliable expansion at lower velocities than would be typical with a .308 Max load, or .30/06, .300 WM. I have done no testing to determine if this is true or not, but have adopted the Savage bullet when shooting a .30 cal at anticipated lower impact velocities. A year ago I sent an email to Hornady seeking confirmation of this and never received a reply.
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Ardent
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I am impressed by, and quickly coming to understand Hoyt, Boomer's, medved's, and Dogleg's ballistic tinkering and experimentation is a disease I couldn't possibly hope to contract.
TacticalTeacher
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- Location
- Georgian Bay, ON
Sometimes it's nice to have a series of Remmy's (lots of used takeoff barrels) or Winnies to run a pile of cartridges like : .22-250, .243, .260, and .308. I run all of these and it sure is nice to be able to pick and choose (son or wife or nephew) which platform and cartridge for the deer-rifle season!
You guys up north with all them bugs, sure brought back memories of my teaching days up in Hay Lakes, AB.
ha ha ha ha ha
Cheers and keep helping them nooobies!
Barney
You guys up north with all them bugs, sure brought back memories of my teaching days up in Hay Lakes, AB.
ha ha ha ha ha
Cheers and keep helping them nooobies!
Barney
