Value of Portuguese K98k?

desporterizer said:
You might think so, until you tried to sell it. I have an all matching 1937 contract Port k98 that I bought from a member here for $800 with the bayo & it sat on the ee for almost a month.
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I suppose we've simply had different experiences then. I sold a nice matching (likely combat used) 1941 Port contract not too long ago for quite a bit more than your quoted range and to be honest, it wasn't at all tough to move. Here are a few photos of that rifle.

Very respectfully, I think you're comparing apples to oranges when giving valuations on 1941 contract rifles based on your experience with the 1937 contracts but that's just my humble opinion on the matter. Out of curiosity, is your 1937 contract completely unaltered and in nice shape? I'd be interested to see photos of it if you have any on hand, and may I ask what year you bought it?

- Chris





 
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IIRC, On the EE just very recently, there was a guy with a M1941 Port K98 with a Bayonet wanting $3800 or trade for a pre 1987 Chevy/GMC stepside half ton truck!

Just saying we have seen quite a range of values so far, but it's always up to the seller to decide.



If you guys have an eye for detail the 1937 M937 is on top! Notice the few differences on all of them.

M937 top

M1941 middle

M1941 bottom

 
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desporterizer said:
4b1t, has the rifle been proof marked post war?
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No, just the original proofs. It was one of the ones brought into Canada by Century in the 80s (or maybe late 70s?) I bought a mint one and one each of the F series and G series.

BTW, thank you to everyone on your input, I always learn something new in the Milsurp section.
 
student of history said:
I suppose we've simply had different experiences then. I sold a nice matching (likely combat used) 1941 Port contract not too long ago for quite a bit more than your quoted range and to be honest, it wasn't at all tough to move. Here are a few photos of that rifle.

Very respectfully, I think you're comparing apples to oranges when giving valuations on 1941 contract rifles based on your experience with the 1937 contracts but that's just my humble opinion on the matter. Out of curiosity, is your 1937 contract completely unaltered and in nice shape? I'd be interested to see photos of it if you have any on hand, and may I ask what year you bought it?

- Chris
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Ask and you shall receive. Top is the one I picked up for $800 in nov 2014, bottom is one I bought a few years ago for $700 shipped. Both have seen much use. Notice how much the top looks exactly like a normal k98. I think the hand guard is a replacement.



Here was a nice h block 41 I bought for $1400 & sold for $1200 in 2010



And good old f 2148. Used this one in a milsurp shoot & it did quite well. Bought it for $600 in 2006 sold in 2011 for the equivalent trade of $800.



I saw the add for your rifle & was surprised when it sold. Maybe you just got lucky?
 
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$850 in 2004. (Including bayonet and sling)
Low S/n H Block rifle with high S/n H Block bayonet with matching scabbard.

I bought this 41 Port back in 2004 because I could not find a matching German coded K98k in my geography.











WaA519 ---Waffenfabrik Carl Eickhorn ---the manufacturer of the bayonet.



This is what $850 got me back in 2004.

I wanted a matching K98k to go with some of my other WWII German guns.
The 41 Port was all that I was able to find back in 2004--- albeit not German coded.

 
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You're rifles are hardly comparable. One is in rough shape with a clear mm hand guard. And the other is a 37. In the world of k98k collection one mismatch makes or breaks the gun. Your third example proves my point. That rifle was worth $1200 in 2011, it's worth that or more now....
4th example trades aren't cash. And when people trade if both are happy then cash value can vary.


I'm not trying to be a total #### but Opinions aren't even valid in this case. With a few small exceptions a matching port k98k will sell for over $1000 all day long. Prices from more then 2 years ago just aren't valid sadly on a common gun that is seen for sale frequently enough. Secondly prices aren't valid if you fleece and old man or woman or a non internet person. Haha.

If you're going to quote a price,'make it in the last 18 months. No one cares what it sold for in 2003,6, 10 as it just isn't valid. A bottle of pop and gasoline changed price since last year, so do guns.

Or maybe I should really go to the polar opposite and quote this fella American prices? Where the ports are valued higher then here. Haha

Btw anyone selling a matching k98k without the Canadian curse, for under $1200 I'll buy them all day long.
 
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What is the Canadian curse? Hey I could be totally wrong but the pool of guys willing to spend $2000 for a port k98 is pretty small. If all the guys that want one have one you will be sitting on it a long time. Generally speaking, other than jbmauser and Canadian ar,who else has been buying large quantities of big value k98?
 
desporterizer said:
Generally speaking, other than jbmauser and Canadian ar,who else has been buying large quantities of big value k98?
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I think the demand for matching German coded K98s here in Canada is definitely there, but most guys don't have them because they're simply too difficult to source. I volunteer with WWII vets on a weekly basis and have asked many of them what they were and were not allowed to bring home and the answer I've gotten from nearly all of them was "NO GUNS". Obviously that didn't stop them from smuggling things back but typically the smuggled goods would come in the form of pistols as those were more easily concealed from the MP's. Items like P38s are relatively plentiful for that reason but smuggling full length rifles was another story. That's (at least in my opinion) why we don't see many German coded (non port contract) matching rifles just kicking around here in Canada.

So is anyone else on jbmauser or CanadianAR's level? Not that I know of... But I firmly believe that there are a great number of people out there who would jump at the opportunity of owning a matching rifle if it wasn't so tough to get their hands on one.

What we've got to remember is that those guys have to painstakingly import each and every rifle that they so kindly show off here on CGN. That process takes months and costs quite a bit when you incorporate the base import fee, currency conversion, tax, duty and freight into the equation... so it really does become a labour of love. I've personally got a few nice matching rifles, but am not on their level.

As for the Canadian Curse? I think he's referring to the fact that most rifles we encounter up here have at lease some form of small issues with them but that's just speculative on my part - I guess he can further explain that claim himself.

- Chris
 
The Canadian curse applies to original German k98k.

Almost every one that surfaces in canada, has an issue. Small mismatch
Or sanded, or varnished. Lol
Excluding port contract of course.

i don't value the ports as high as a German rifle. I'll admit that. But if I value a standard common german code to worth slightly over $2k, I personally value a similar port at around $14-1500.
 
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student of history said:
I volunteer with WWII vets on a weekly basis and have asked many of them what they were and were not allowed to bring home and the answer I've gotten from nearly all of them was "NO GUNS". Obviously that didn't stop them from smuggling things back but typically the smuggled goods would come in the form of pistols as those were more easily concealed from the MP's. Items like P38s are relatively plentiful for that reason but smuggling full length rifles was another story. That's (at least in my opinion) why we don't see many German coded (non port contract) matching rifles just kicking around here in Canada
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When my Dad came back he said that the ship moored offshore, I think it was Halifax, for the night and they were told that if they were found with weapons when they disembarked the next morning, they would be charged.

He said when they went up for a smoke on deck you could hear guys pitching stuff over the side all night long! He pitched a Browning Hi Power, probably a German contract one (back then to him,a HP was a HP).
 
That's exactly what I was told by a vet I worked with.



4b1t said:
When my Dad came back he said that the ship moored offshore, I think it was Halifax, for the night and they were told that if they were found with weapons when they disembarked the next morning, they would be charged.

He said when they went up for a smoke on deck you could hear guys pitching stuff over the side all night long! He pitched a Browning Hi Power, probably a German contract one (back then to him,a HP was a HP).
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desporterizer said:
longbranch* said:
I still own the bottom one. Unissued and like new. Think I sold the top one pictured for about $1,500 a few years ago.


You sold it to me. I sold it few months later at a $200 loss after it sat on the ee for a month.
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I sold a nice matching port rifle with mismatched bayo/scab for $1700 in October 2012. And I had two buyers. There is always ups and downs, but not too many downs these days.
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CanadianAR said:
desporterizer said:
I sold a nice matching port rifle with mismatched bayo/scab for $1700 in October 2012. And I had two buyers. There is always ups and downs, but not too many downs these days.
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Maybe its just me? I have sold two rifles to riflechair with very little interest from anybody else for decent prices & he sold them six months later quickly for $50% more. I would say its my looks turning people off but these are mail order deals.
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We've certainly seen how the influx of RC's has affected the market of German issued 98k's and has likely caused the port market to become more unstable. Three years ago there would've been a consistent demand for a port, but now some people are content to buy an RC instead. I suspect that when RC's dry up here soon it'll be harder to find a reasonably priced port on the market for very long.
 
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