Just when ya think ya seen it all!!

Sounds to me like you live in a corner of paradise. Its interesting that the bear moved along once the food supply disappeared rather than sticking around to be a nuisance. The bison thing is astounding, I can well imagine your brain trying to process the image that your eyes produced. A .223 is a useful coyote/pest gun, but even if loaded with TSXs its probably a little on the weak side to deal with grizzlies and bison. The challenge though is to find a rifle that's easy to carry, that is accurate enough for coyotes and other pests, but has sufficient horsepower to deal with the big guys. Probably a .30/06 fills the bill, with 125 gr bullets at 3300 fps for small stuff and 180, 220, or 240 gr slugs for the big uglies. Big uglies . . . Looki must be rubbing off on me, although I suppose he'd have said bigulies, or buglies, or something .:redface:

Yah meenzs........bahfugglies?

Sumtimes a :slap: is needed 'round here.
Kwick, big, fast, easy to carry, hazz 'nuff umphff fer nasties?

BLR358win............two mags full.

It has been typed here awn the Nett that this round has 'nuff round to it to classify
as a bbd........big bear defense.
Supposiddly better than the trustie awtt six.

Toss'in 250's at an aggrissiff animal with ne'er a movement on the lever and five
rounds at a time makes for keep'in yer shadow with you.

I just sold a very sweet BLR in 308win that I was going to keep and sell my 358win.
Then I had a talk to meself.........dundew-it.
Made a young lad happy at the gun show when he spotted the 308 and the price gave
him a bigg'un :d
Tossed in a box of ammo, just cuzz he made me smile.
 
A bison is unusual. No grizzly in our area, and no antelope, we get a mix of everything else. When the "I'll raise deer, elk, emu, and hogs and make big bucks", idea tanked and "oops some how the gate opened on it's own" we had some pretty weird sightings. Nothing gets you stretching your head like an emu running across the field.
 
Dave. I got charged yesterday by a cow with a calf on the long lake road. She was mad when we rolled up on her with our quads. I thought it was a grizz at first. Figured the got out of pasture by the t intersection. I had my 35 whelen and was going to shoot but her calf was brand new so she got a round at her feet. She took off south towards long lake. Im thinking the buffalo are wild now. :)

Hey BBO...how goes the battle?

Yes, that is where the loose Bison came from as of last Tuesday. Is there such a thing as a "tame" bison?? lol. I heard today that three of the lost ones have been tipped over. Not sure if they have been salvaged or not? Brand Inspector said that if a person feels threatened they are entitled to protect themsleves etc. Not sure if that would entitle a person to the meat though?

My .223 will still be my "fire extinguisher" as it is so light and easy to carry. It would not be a weapon of choice if one were intending to go hunting but it fits the bill for my carry needs. I have no plans to go out of my way to shoot anything, that is a last resort. When "Orville" (grizzly) visited with us he was very frequently within 200 yards of our homes but we had no inclination to shoot or otherwise bother him. We did not see him this spring....one part happy...one part sad. He was very cool to see.

I need to go pull my trail cam cards and see what is on them.
Dave​
 
Sturgis, South Dakota area. Custer State Park. To hell with the buffalo - when you're out riding around watch for the packs of roaming donkeys.

I kid you not. Ride with hot dog buns. You'll know what to do with them when the time comes.

Cannon
 
Your allowed to shoot bison/Buffalo in alberta if they have gotten loose from their owners. So if it's on your property you are allowed to shoot it. I wouldn't consider it to be ethical but it's legal.

When I had my encounter, I phoned the RCMP for clarification. Lady on the phone thought I was playing a practical joke. :rolleyes:

Grizz
 
Tatanka returns

So y-day I am out in my yard watering trees and my GS dog looses her mind again. After the first time I immediately suspect that the bison may have returned. Ten steps to my left and pick up my rifle then look around. Sure enough, there is the bison about 30 yards away grazing on a side lawn. I called the dog off to avoid creating a situation then stood there and watched it. It just kept grazing and would look up at me then go back to grazing. Dug out my cell phone and snapped a couple of pics.

While I am fairly certain it is the same animal that showed up the first time it had a entirely different appearance this time. My guess is the first time it was simply running scared and, like most ungulates, the faster the body goes the slower the brain goes. This time it appeared very calm and quiet and I had the sense that it simply was looking for a "herd" as they are very much a herd animal.

Having absolutely no idea how to work with bison I thought I would try and shake a grain bucket and see if it would follow me and perhaps I could lead it into my round pen. No takers....

It slowly grazed it's way back down the hill into the bush. About 5 minutes later it showed up at the gate into my north quarter where it walked off across the field re-tracing the route it took coming in the first day. My guess is returning to the lake looking for water and/or seeking the last place it was with another bison.

I headed into the house and phoned the owners to let them know where one of their animals had ended up. Oddly I like the idea of the mental challenge of finding a way to "catch" the bison in a pen alive but I have neither the material, time, energy, or knowledge base to do it. Plus it is the responsibilty of the owner to do that. I asked about me closing the gates on my land to restrict the animals movement but he said they go over a 4 strand barbed wire fence the same as a moose.

I gave the owner permission to run around on our land and try to catch it.
Dave​
 
So y-day I am out in my yard watering trees and my GS dog looses her mind again. After the first time I immediately suspect that the bison may have returned. Ten steps to my left and pick up my rifle then look around. Sure enough, there is the bison about 30 yards away grazing on a side lawn. I called the dog off to avoid creating a situation then stood there and watched it. It just kept grazing and would look up at me then go back to grazing. Dug out my cell phone and snapped a couple of pics.

While I am fairly certain it is the same animal that showed up the first time it had a entirely different appearance this time. My guess is the first time it was simply running scared and, like most ungulates, the faster the body goes the slower the brain goes. This time it appeared very calm and quiet and I had the sense that it simply was looking for a "herd" as they are very much a herd animal.

Having absolutely no idea how to work with bison I thought I would try and shake a grain bucket and see if it would follow me and perhaps I could lead it into my round pen. No takers....

It slowly grazed it's way back down the hill into the bush. About 5 minutes later it showed up at the gate into my north quarter where it walked off across the field re-tracing the route it took coming in the first day. My guess is returning to the lake looking for water and/or seeking the last place it was with another bison.

I headed into the house and phoned the owners to let them know where one of their animals had ended up. Oddly I like the idea of the mental challenge of finding a way to "catch" the bison in a pen alive but I have neither the material, time, energy, or knowledge base to do it. Plus it is the responsibilty of the owner to do that. I asked about me closing the gates on my land to restrict the animals movement but he said they go over a 4 strand barbed wire fence the same as a moose.

I gave the owner permission to run around on our land and try to catch it.
Dave​

i don't know about jumping but they sure go through them like they aren't even there
 
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