1250 yds with a 308

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Rifle is a bone stock Savage Precision Carbine with its original 20" barrel. While not an absolute tack driver the rifle has proven to be nicely accurate and consistent, printing 5-shot 5/8 inch groups all day. Mostly I shoot lightweight 125gr Ballistic Tips out of it and these have been good out to 700 yds. However wind can be an issue and I was getting tired of my buddy whooping my ass with his high BC bullets.

I had some 208 AMAX's lying around and decided to see how they might work in the Savage.

I had no time to actually shoot for group or chrono or any load development or even zero the rifle so I was pretty happy when the first test rounds at 100 yds actually landed on the paper fairly close to the point of aim. The big 208's were stable out of the OEM Savage Precision carbine barrel and recoil was not excessive. I went 1/2gr over the max listed load for Varget and the cases showed no pressure signs. I think I can get another grain into the cases without seriously compressing the powder.

Luckily we were shooting over a river valley and could use the water to spot the misses and correct from there. The first round at 900 yds landed within 5 feet of the target for windage and was very close for elevation .... thank the iSnipe gods for that. Being able to spot the splash it was a fairly easy task to correct the elevation and windage from the mil-dot reticle.

We managed to hit the 900 yd target fairly quickly and then made easy hits on a 930 yd target. Even my wife made a hit on the 930 yd target. :D The "THWOCK" of the bullet hitting water and wet mud was impressive even from 900 yds distant. Once we were making reasonably consistent hits at 900 yds we decided to see how far we could stretch out the 308.

Our spotter was able to pick out at decent target at 1250 yds. As most ballistic computers are a bit hincky much past 600 yds and I was only guessing at the muzzle velocity and true zero range, I dialled in the elevation and hoped for the best. First round, no splash, no dust, nothing. Crap!

Took a wild guess and added 5 MOA elevation and 5 MOA windage. Second round, splash low and left. Placing the reticle on the target I was able to calculate windage and elevation corrections off the mil-dots and dial that into the turrets. At this point I discovered I was lying on a red ant hill and the little buggers were organizing to mount an attach on me. The swarm was mostly under the rifle around the bipod legs but I had suffered a bite, which is how I noticed them. As we were so close, I decided to hunker down and concentrate on making the next shot before the ants could really do some damage. Head down, align sights, breathe, squeeze. Third round ......................... solid hit! :D :D :D

Figured I should stop at that point cause it just wasn't gonna get any better than that and the ants were going to make a meal out of me if I stayed any longer.

1250 yds in effectively 2 rounds. It is a holiday Monday and my birthday today and that made for a hell of a day out. I really didn't think a 308 would go that far and do it so easily. The ballistics computer says that round should be supersonic to around 1400 yds and if I could get another 50-100 fps out of it maybe even further.
 
Just dial up for 1500yds and send it... I bet it will land as expected.

I have found the amax in various cals to go subsonic without missing a beat.

I am going to reach out to 1mile with my FTR this summer.

Will be fun.

Jerry
 
We have taken the 308 to 1 mile. Shooting a 12x14inch steel plate. So it can definitely be done at the range your looking at
 
We have been making some hits out to 1365.... 178 Amax at 2600 was eaqualing a sweet little 71.75 Moa drop. With 16-24km winds it was a great day for shooting. We were sitting around 15" grouping, want to do some more at that range, try and get those groups a little tighter. Hoping to get to a mile this summer as well.
 
...Prob the biggest issue is getting the target out there... :(

This!

I've got 2 spots that are a real pain to get my targets out to. But it's worth it. The Mosquitos are the really bad part as one of mine is across a river/valley floor too and they love it there

I have a "20 savage incoming right now and can't wait to see how it'll do compared to the 24 and 26
" 700's I've always had in the past. Glad you made it your hit, while under attack ;)
 
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I have a "20 savage incoming right now and can't wait to see how it'll do compared to the 24 and 26
" 700's I've always had in the past. Glad you made it your hit, while under attack ;)

You will probably find the short barrels are less consistent than the longer barrels, regardless of bullet weight. If short barrels were better for accuracy, the benchrest shooters would have switched over in a heartbeat. And, think about long range artillery, the big guns have exceptionally long barrels. The accepted standard for long range target shooting is 28 to 32 inches. Longer if shooting iron sights to get enough sight radius for clicks. Too long and the rifle becomes unwieldy.

The concept of supershort precision rifle barrels comes from police snipers who need to get in and out of police vehicles and helicopters without hanging up. If their engagement distances are over 200m, they are way too far away.
 
I thought I was done a long range shooting. Did it years back and kinda got over it. But now we are plotting even greater distances. :) Maybe see if 1500 yds or even a mile is in the cards.

A friend is coming over from EU who has never shot past 300 yds because they are not allowed to shoot outside of the club. Gonna introduce him to the freedom and long range possibilities we enjoy here in S Alberta. :)

I'm not going out to buy a long barreled rifle for this. What I have is what is gonna get used. So the 20" Sav is the thing in my case.
 
I shoot my Palma rifles at 1km and beyond with the irons quite often - lots of fun!
a friend was out a fe years back with a 20" barrelled Remington made the trip out there with no problem, he was using a Zeiss Scope on it off the bench
Cat
 
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