Price check on a unfired stored for 30 years Parker Hale 303

H4831 said:
I have a great difference in opinion, to what has been stated on here as value for this rifle. And regardless how you calculate value, it takes some one to pay out the money.
It has a nice stock, but the barreled action is a plain old #3, or SMLE rifle from WW1, or very early WW2.
That rifle, with a cut down military stock, might go for $165 at a gun show, but most likely would still be there at the end of the show.
My guess is that the rifle shown would sit through two days at a major gun show and still be there at the close, if priced at $375.
Sorry Matilda, but the 303 British in an old military rifle, is just not a popular piece of equipment.
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well a few points

not a No1 action, that is a No4 action that has had the rear sight machined off, and appears to be the highest grade of PH conversion

there are also collectors who collect PH sporters, and are willing to pay the preimum.
 
woodchopper said:
well a few points

not a No1 action, that is a No4 action that has had the rear sight machined off, and appears to be the highest grade of PH conversion

there are also collectors who collect PH sporters, and are willing to pay the preimum.
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Yep, I see that now, but I've seen too many 303 Lee Enfields, No 4 or not, in fancy looking stocks sitting around unsold, to change my opinion on value.
What Kamlooky didn't mention was a genuine Parker Hale, with detachable box magazine, Mauser 98 action and Parker Hale fully adjustable custom trigger, in 30-06 calibre with very good bluing and just some minor blemishes on the stock, going unsold at the recent Kamloops gun show, with a price tag of $395 on it.
 
I've seen bubberized Lee Enfields with the asking price of $350, on E.E. Who knows what they actually got, but this shiny specimen would surely fetch a premium.
 
I bought the exact same rifle in 1985 new unfired for less than $ 250.00 taxes included . My self I would not pay more than $ 425.00 even thought condition looks to be very good .
 
A P-H Custom No. 1 would usually easily go for 300.00 $ / 350.00 $ in well used but still good condition.
BTW, H4831, these rifles were totally stripped, re-heat treated and reassembled with with either new or used barrels, depending on "grade". They were considered fine sporters all over the Commonwealth in the days...
 
It would go for $400 if I got a crack at it. I have a nice old Churchill Gunmakers No.1 that I bought "new" in 1965. It has been hunted. The one above is a beauty!
 
trebor2880 said:
If this one was put on E.E. for $395, the seller would say: "Sold in ten seconds!"
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You type the type, but would you stand up to bat fer such an exclamation?

Yes Mr. Gunpowder feller............yer right, but I did mention my Whozsvarna which dint sold at a reasonable offering.
Wuzzint me intenshun tew make yer face a wee bit on the rouge side.

Can't see the comparison from an elderly Husqvarna value verses a uhdulterred soldier.
 
I always saw them as a nice upgrade from the typical cut down MKIII SMLE's and No.4's that filled the hardware stores right through to the 1970's until commercial factory sporting rifles became more available and affordable ie: Winchester 70's, Remington 700 Savages etc. A true "poor mans Weatherby", but they filled a lot of freezer's over the years. If you like it and it shoots for you then go for it, but don't look at as an investment. Again just my opinion.
 
In spite of all that has been said on here, I just can't see any increase in value over what I have been saying.
Even if Parker Hale put a "new" barrel on it, it is just another old military barrel. How could even a jazzed up Lee Enfield 303 be worth more than a post war Husqvarna with a good Mauser 98 action with Swedish steel barrel, in a much more desirable calibre?
Or a Parker Hale factory built 30-06 on a Mauser 98 with a custom trigger and similar stock?
Both of the above examples have an excellent reputation for accuracy. What kind of accuracy would you expect from the Lee Enfield in question.
I guess we will just have to move on, with no opinions changed.
 
H4831 said:
I have a great difference in opinion, to what has been stated on here as value for this rifle. And regardless how you calculate value, it takes some one to pay out the money.
It has a nice stock, but the barreled action is a plain old #3, or SMLE rifle from WW1, or very early WW2.
That rifle, with a cut down military stock, might go for $165 at a gun show, but most likely would still be there at the end of the show.
My guess is that the rifle shown would sit through two days at a major gun show and still be there at the close, if priced at $375.
Sorry Matilda, but the 303 British in an old military rifle, is just not a popular piece of equipment.
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My guess is that the rifle shown would sit through two days at a major gun show and still be there at the close, if priced at $375.

I agree... and at the show many would have said it is a good price... and walked away... It would sell quickly at $250 I think.
 
I think it is a $400 rifle in that condition. But you might wait a while for a buyer who is interested in PH rifles. If I owned it I would remove the PH base and rings which would fetch $125 easy and advertise the rifle for $300 and the scope would bring $75 easy. That is a total of $500 sold separate if your intent is to make money from it. As it sits it is a well built sporter capable of dropping anything on the continent despite what the magnum crowd might say. Parker Hale rifles are one of the best values in Canada as they generally do not bring what they are worth being undervalued generally. My 2 cents.
 
I know I would love to own a 303 that looked like that and actually shot where I pointed. I have never owned a 303 military that would group inside the target paper even let alone near the bulls eye so it has to have a decent value. I seen a Mark 5 full wood and everything on the LGS shelf for just under $400 here lately and the sporter Mk 4 was $195.
 
Gee whiz! I must have overpaid, and over-valued, some of my 303 chambered British made sporters, all of which are built on the older Lee Speed, Long Lee and C.L.L.E. actions, rather than this new-fangled No. 4 actioned rifle. I would absolutely LOVE to buy some more of these for only 4 C-notes!

Mind, I suppose that engraving, cape sights, barrel ribs, Pre-World War 1 French marble-cake walnut and engraved fish belly magazines all up the price a tad.

BTW, if I use the right ammunition, namely Mark VI or Mark VII depending on the rifle, they all hit the target in accordance with their sight settings, at least as well as my peepers can still make out a good sight picture.

Would post some pics but I am on dial-up at present out here in God's country.
 
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