I actually would never do that, it was in the realm of "tongue in cheek".........truth be known I usually carried significantly more than most my sheep hunting partners, I have the build and legs to do it so I usually did......
Recommendations for a 375 H&H?
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.. Yes .. I was pretty certain that would be the case based on your other threads! .. I was just having some fun... but the smg story was true. And lost military pattern weapons do find there way to hot spots pretty dam quick.(incidentally I did find some chocolate bars in my pack once that had been placed there by mistake - I did the proper thing though ... and ate them!)
I really like the new Winchester Alaskan and Safari. I would save for one of those depending on what weight you like. The Safari is a somewhat more comfy to shoot, but weighs over a pound more. However, nine pounds for a .375 H&H isn't too bad either. A Model 70 Super Grade in .30-06 is 8.4 pounds.
Looked at one of the new Portuguese assembled Model 70 Alaskans in the store the other day. The fit and finish was really, really nice. Barrels seem to be polished like the Super Grades now.
I like the 2.5x20mm Leupold scope on either rifle, but a 4x33 would work pretty well too.
Looked at one of the new Portuguese assembled Model 70 Alaskans in the store the other day. The fit and finish was really, really nice. Barrels seem to be polished like the Super Grades now.
I like the 2.5x20mm Leupold scope on either rifle, but a 4x33 would work pretty well too.
In somewhat of a reply to your question in post #58, as luck would have it, I have 'one of each'.
The top, a model 70 Super Express, blued and standard or 'run of the mill' quality wood.
Below, a custom, using the Remington 700 action, a 'coated' stainless action and barrel and presently sporting a laminate stock. Right off hand, I forget exactly what the coating is, but regardless, I prefer that 'look' to stainless. With it came a B&C stock but unless I run into 'issues' with the laminate that's on it, not very likely I'll ever use it. Not fond of the 'plastic' look. My #1 preference is blued and nicely figured wood. I have, however,made a few compromises and likely will make a few more in future.
If it can look like that and be stainless with a coating, you may not have "one of each" but rather "the best of both worlds": one beauty classic and another beauty with extra-rugged functionality.
From the pictures I have seen, your collection is pretty special. Thanks for sharing. *Lagavulin Cheers*
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Thanks. The Winchester on top is in 375 H&H. The custom job below is in a close 'relative' calibre I became very interested in. The 375 Chatfield Taylor. Anyway, when SuperCub agreed to put it up for adoption, I jumped at the opportunity
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I'd go hoyt's way and save for an RSM, no flies on the 602 it's a great working rifle I owned one and liked it, but it's a different type of rifle. If you wanted a custom maker to build you an RSM from scratch, you'd be looking at kissing the bottom edge of five figures, yes it'd be tighter than a factory offering but there's nothing wrong with a Ruger. The value the RSM offers is absurd, just total the prices of an integral rib barrel ($3500), NECG Express sight ($150), Circassian walnut stock ($800ish, just throwing a number), true magnum CRF action... Highly recommended.
Here's a write up on the RSM,
http://www.morrisonarms.com/2014/09/the-ruger-safari-magnum-rsm-a-tribute-to-an-old-friend/
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The thing I can never figure out about the RSM is that when they were still making them they were always sitting on sale for 999-1100 bucks, but when Ruger quit making them the top blew off. I suppose that it was one of those things that people were "going to buy someday" but someday never came until they found out they couldn't have one.
I had both a Sako and a RSM in .375 at the same time. I sold the RSM - beautiful rifle, but way too heavy in that chambering. Definitely not the rifle to take if a lot of walking is involved, especially if it is scoped.
The RSM always felt way too clubby for me as well, maybe in a 505 or something, but like the 602s, way too much gun for the 375 H&H IMHO. I have found a 7 1/2 to 8 lb rifle very manageable in 375 H&H and have fired 1000s of rounds from rifles in this caliber, in this weight class, without undue stress.
I by-passed the RSM because of weight and feel too. After going through a few 10 ish pounders (that were featherweights compared to the RSMs I tried) I've arrived at a 8 1/2 pounds scoped M70 and will likely stay there. It doesn't have to weigh more than that, and handles like sporter should.
Ardent
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I can't argue with you guys, they are beefy and a bit nose heavy. You guys are all experienced medium bore and well beyond shooters, but given the .375 is usually the first foray above the "light magnums" of the .300 mag class, the weight was welcome for me. I carried mine some pretty absurd places, including to the 10,000' neighbourhood chasing sheep above the clouds, pictured below. Absolutely the wrong tool for the job admittedly, but I had supreme confidence in that rifle and I wanted an iron sights sheep, and I failed with a smile.
I'm happy with an 8lb .375 now, but the big RSM's weight pays dividends on the butt end bringing the lighter 270r loadings into 200gr .30-06 recoil territory. I culled with the RSM on Impala and it was very nice to use that way, some of my lighter guns would be a chore. I spent too much time hunting with the RSM to be able to honestly say whether it pointed poorly, for if it did, I learned how to use it and can hit extremely quickly and in quick succession with an RSM unlike other bolt medium and up bores I play with. The stock length and fit is damn near perfect for me too, so I'm sure that affects things too. Overall, it's a slightly imperfect agglomeration of excellent features that punches well outside it's value range, even at today's prices. I priced out an integral rib barrel for a 7x57 project and was quoted many thousands, well above the cost of a complete RSM, start looking at the rest of the rifle and it looks like an absurd value, even if heavy.
I'm happy with an 8lb .375 now, but the big RSM's weight pays dividends on the butt end bringing the lighter 270r loadings into 200gr .30-06 recoil territory. I culled with the RSM on Impala and it was very nice to use that way, some of my lighter guns would be a chore. I spent too much time hunting with the RSM to be able to honestly say whether it pointed poorly, for if it did, I learned how to use it and can hit extremely quickly and in quick succession with an RSM unlike other bolt medium and up bores I play with. The stock length and fit is damn near perfect for me too, so I'm sure that affects things too. Overall, it's a slightly imperfect agglomeration of excellent features that punches well outside it's value range, even at today's prices. I priced out an integral rib barrel for a 7x57 project and was quoted many thousands, well above the cost of a complete RSM, start looking at the rest of the rifle and it looks like an absurd value, even if heavy.
What are you using the gun for? I've had a Winchester 70, Browning and now own a Sako Kodiak. I would suggest paying more for a decent gun, especially in the larger calibers. Sako has detachable mags wich are handy, the Browing had it's floorplate system with detachable mags (also quick to reload when you get used to it), for some reason the recoil pads on the guns I've had were less than an inch. And don't buy a cheap scope, it won't hold up.
I can't argue with you guys, they are beefy and a bit nose heavy.
... the big RSM's weight pays dividends on the butt end bringing the lighter 270r loadings into 200gr .30-06 recoil territory.
... I spent too much time hunting with the RSM to be able to honestly say whether it pointed poorly, for if it did, I learned how to use it...
The stock length and fit is damn near perfect for me too...
... start looking at the rest of the rifle and it looks like an absurd value, even if heavy.
The fact that weight is relative is never mentioned... if I were 5'4" and 135 pounds, I imagine the RSM would be an overwhelming rifle... but at 6'4" and 270 pounds, it feels like Harry Potter's wand... I like hefty rifles... and this rifle is hefty... you know you are holding something substantial... the recoil cycle with light H4895 loads is so pleasant that the first 100 rounds went down the pipe far too quickly... accompanied by my "little girl" giggling. Full power loads of H4350 and 300 grain SP's are no more objectionable than 180's from my M77 RSI .30/06... the weight-forward balance, doesn't feel so "forward" to me with long arms, unless compared to a short barrel or pencil barreled rifle... the stock fit is perfect... the standard Bill Ruger "no nonsense" profile, which is one of the three main reasons that I am so enamoured of Ruger rifles... the others being the rock solid toughness and dependability.
Ohhh... and it sure purty...
Much appreciated, Ardent.
375 ruger is no more a problem just get some 300 win mag brass and you are good ...
They probably wouldn't sell well... SPS shooter's are buying .243, .270, 7mm-08, .308 etc...
It would be a cheap price point to try out a .375 though... I'm guessing there would be plenty of ads in the EE reading;
"Like New Remington 700 SPS .375 H&H, less than a box fired, comes with 16 factory loads and four brass."
And of course the price would be slightly higher than a new one.
But it's a pushfeed and not a CRF!!!!!!
Sunray? , Is that you?
Phil... just buy a Right Hand CRF and shoot it upside down...
Your welcome.
Guyslot of fun here and good advices.
it is not that i dislike that much the remington 700 but my experiences with them was not that good .... i even had one in 30-06 a left handed bdl version but after my second season as a guide i sold it as three clients short stroked a sa in 08 calibers. doesnt mean it cannot happen with other kind of rifle, the other thing is the safety we had some locked due to water and moisture and the cold.
again it can happen to other but it was my experience.
dont say it too loud but im on my way to get one to shoot at the stand so there is always a hope lol ...
