Composite Stocks

don't worry guys , other stock makers in the country are paying attention to this thread as well ;)
hopefully in the not so distant future, Canadian shooters will have to rely less and less on the U.S. made composite stocks.
there IS a huge void to fill in this market
 
I would like a hunting stock for a Browning BBR in .300 win mag. That wouldn't cost more then a new rifle. I have 2 that have pretty much been retired due to stock cracks only site that I can find a stock for them is McM. cost is out of site.
 
OK, so something with a wrist like a Sako 75 hunter stock, a Remington classic butt, and the Echols forend for a hunter. If laid up right it could be finished at 22oz.
If you are doing 2 hunters right now, then make the second similar to a Remington KS Model 7 stock.
 
Considering who started this thread might I suggest that the OP review his sales records for the most popular movers and then analysis the market to see where it went in aftermarket stock sales.
Between the two a direction should be clear I would think...
And I'm looking forward to see what comes out of this :)
 
wce323078 said:
I would like a hunting stock for a Browning BBR in .300 win mag. That wouldn't cost more then a new rifle. I have 2 that have pretty much been retired due to stock cracks only site that I can find a stock for them is McM. cost is out of site.
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Huh, I thought McMillan's prices were priced pretty reasonably for what you get, or where you expecting Ramline pricing? The problem with McMillan is the lag time between ordering the stock and getting it. Purchasing an equivalent stock from a top rank Canadian Manufacturer, like Robertson, should solve that issue. If you had spent some money on bedding, its unlikely the factory stocks would have failed, unless your rifle generates 80+ foot-pounds of recoil. The first stock should have taught you that your bedding needed attention. If you spend big money on a high quality, after market stock, and it doesn't matter who makes it, if its attached to a hard kicking rifle, and isn't bedded correctly, the stock will fail.
 
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Boomer said:
Huh, I thought McMillan's prices were priced pretty reasonably for what you get, or where you expecting Ramline pricing? .
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Let's see, mcmillan lists their edge at $636, plus now they insist on using a importer up here who from what I hear usually charge $100. So now you are looking at $736 + shipping from mcmillan to the importer, and the importer to you - so I will be generous and say $75. Now we are at $811. Factor in tax, and the horrible exchange rate you are looking at over $1000.

That's reasonable for a composite hunting stock?

My last mcmillan cost $600, and I thought that was getting pricey.
 
double gun said:
Let's see, mcmillan lists their edge at $636, plus now they insist on using a importer up here who from what I hear usually charge $100. So now you are looking at $736 + shipping from mcmillan to the importer, and the importer to you - so I will be generous and say $75. Now we are at $811. Factor in tax, and the horrible exchange rate you are looking at over $1000.

That's reasonable for a composite hunting stock?

My last mcmillan cost $600, and I thought that was getting pricey.
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Well, I've got a couple of them, although I didn't spend that much. Obviously when the exchange rate favors the Canadian manufacturer rather than the Canadian consumer, the prices will reflect the fact. If there is a disparity in the price between an American made stock, and a Canadian made stock, the Canadian stock manufacturers should benefit and prosper, provided they can match the quality and material of their American counterparts. Might be a good time to get into the stock making industry, if you like resins and fiberglass cloth, and can find a CNC inletting machine.
 
Forgetting the exchange rate, $811 + tax = $851 that's still crazy for a composite hunting stock.

Wildcat composites don't offer completed stocks, but his blanks are excellent quality and start at $260+tax Canadian. My only wish is that they were able to supply more models. If they have what I need, they are my first stop. Lighter than any mcmillan, stiff, affordable and made here in Alberta.

The problem is the Canadian market is tiny compared to the US market, which sadly will hold back the Canadian makers from offering the limitless options available from companies like mcmillan. Which is sad, because at mcmillans current price point - me and I'm sure a lot of others have bought their last.
 
double gun said:
Forgetting the exchange rate, $811 + tax = $851 that's still crazy for a composite hunting stock.

Wildcat composites don't offer completed stocks, but his blanks are excellent quality and start at $260+tax Canadian. My only wish is that they were able to supply more models. If they have what I need, they are my first stop. Lighter than any mcmillan, stiff, affordable and made here in Alberta.

The problem is the Canadian market is tiny compared to the US market, which sadly will hold back the Canadian makers from offering the limitless options available from companies like mcmillan. Which is sad, because at mcmillans current price point - me and I'm sure a lot of others have bought their last.
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I've got a Wildcat Ultralight ordered for my switch barrel, my gunsmith doesn't appreciate the lack of checkering, but I'll decide if its what I want once it appears. If not, I'll give Robertson Composites a try. Clearly McMillan doesn't need the Canadian market, but their prices will reflect their popularity in the US. I expect American brass, powder, and bullets price increases can be expected as well.
 
Boomer said:
I've got a Wildcat Ultralight ordered for my switch barrel, my gunsmith doesn't appreciate the lack of checkering, but I'll decide if its what I want once it appears. If not, I'll give Robertson Composites a try. Clearly McMillan doesn't need the Canadian market, but their prices will reflect their popularity in the US. I expect American brass, powder, and bullets price increases can be expected as well.
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Well its already here. Hornady brass sells for the same amount as Lapua..Prophet River Has Nosler for more then Lapua...I dont know who in their right mind would buy American when you can have European stuff for the same or less. Only problem Lapua doesnt make brass in alot of cals.
 
Ian,

Do you have any more news to share? Is production any closer? Certainly there will be a grand opening discount/group buy something or other for CGN members? :)
 
Well part of the reason that RCI went tits up was that the prices were too good. I know he has the first mould made. It is a classic hunter style with notches for Rem 700. It will be made using the same materials and methods that RCI used because I am teaching him! To begin it will be available in any colour you like as long as it's black or brown.
 
I am looking forward to seeing what all comes out. Currently not in need of Rem sporter stock but a varmint-ish/tac stock for a 700 would be nice to see. Would also like to see sporters inletted for the Howa/Vanguard action.

Any ballpark price tag for a fully inletted stock? Mcmillan-ish?
 
Ian Robertson said:
Well part of the reason that RCI went tits up was that the prices were too good. .
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same here, tho I decided to close the doors before the "tits up" happened hehehe
I only made M14/M1A stocks, in hand laminated carbon fiber and fiberglass in my own moulds and method. problem being , every wants a 300.00 stock LOL I sold a surprising amount in the short few years I was a dealer here but at 549.00 each I wasn't making a whole lot in the end. Now I see an American company making a full carbon fiber m1A stock and it sells for 900 up here LOL don't know if guys are buying them tho.
I hope you guys succeed, no reason Canadians can't make quality rifle stocks on par with or exceeding the offerings from the U.S.
 
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