An old thread revisited I bought an 828U after reading all the bad and good about it but wanted a light HUNTING gun that points quick and does not way a ton.First tests on the skeet range gun down it is all that I had hoped for comes up quick points well maybe would have liked 30" barrels but extremely satisfied with it all the way around.Trap different story at 6,5' I can take a pretty good beating but after 25 pair of doubles was not going to get inline again right away.My usual doubles gun is a beretta 682 gold E and have run 250 pair in a day without to much problems.So it is not a target gun and that's why I bought it, had a cynergy for 2 weeks got rid of that leg iron and several browning citoris but think this has many merits,of course for the price it should, will see how I feel at the end of the season ...