Type 97 2 MOA Possible?

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I have heard a number of conflicting Type 97 FTU accuracy reports.
I'm just curious if anyone here with experience with the rifles might be able to substantiate some of the claims.
I've heard of some guys say that they can shoot 2 MOA with ammo their gun likes consistently.
If that were true I would be happy as I'm not looking for a target gun.
What are guys finding?

I'm imagining that gun with a FFP Vortex Viper PST 2.5-10x32 if that helps any.
 
My T97 loved the American Eagle 55gr BTFMJ. Its not the stuff in the black box. The black box stuff isn't a boat tail. That stuff shot well too but the stuff in the red box. Little bit more expensive but shot 2.5 - 3" with irons.... or plastic since the rear sight on the T97 is plastic.... I don't know what to say anymore.
 
I had my buddies T97 in the shop to put an ambi mag release on. I also "tested" it a fair bit with some old Malaysian 55gr ball, and some older Winchester U.S.A. brand 55gr ball. The factory sights are difficult to use in a hurry, but I was able to get some 3-4" groups with little effort. The trigger is mushy and has a long pull before release, but is predictable with use and broke at 5.5 pounds. With a decent sight arrangement, or some type of optic that sits low enough to generate a good cheek weld, and much trigger practice...I can see 2moa from it.

One thing for sure, it shoots much better than other buddies Tavor.
 
I'm really looking forward to finding out, but I'm waiting for the LHG before taking it out. Through dry fire I can see why some my have issues in getting good groups, I'm hoping the LHG really helps because I don't think the accuracy potential is that bad for this rifle. 2 MOA should be do-able in a consistent manner, with decent ammo. I can pretty much guarantee that I wouldn't be able to do that with irons - I need to scope my rifles past 50. I would also be really happy to see objective reports here.
 
Yes, We were able to use a Troy Ambi Mag Release, but it had to be modified.

The release plunger needs to be longer as the T97 is wider in that area and the AR stud is not long enough. The back edge of the mag catch bar needs to be trimmed back. The catch bar itself, If I remember correctly, needed to be have the sides thinned equally to fit the T97's slot. In addition, the protrusion that catches in the mag had to be reduced in length in order for the protrusion to lock in place in the mag. This has to do with the AR mag catch bar being shorter in overall length than the T97 catch bar and the protrusion does not line up fully with the retention slot in the mag. Also, some careful machining was needed below where the ambi lever sits, to remove a portion of the raised lip that surrounds the mag catch bar slot in the receiver.

It works, but it's not perfect. All that would be needed is for a manufacturer to increase the length of an AR catch bar to the T97 length, remove the back portion of the catch bar behind the stud, thin the catch bar itself to T97 dimensions, and increase the length of the threaded stud. Then, all that would be necessary would be a few minutes of machining on the previously mentioned lip on the receiver.


Duke878 said:
DO go on.... details?
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jakester said:
Yes, We were able to use a Troy Ambi Mag Release, but it had to be modified.

The release plunger needs to be longer as the T97 is wider in that area and the AR stud is not long enough. The back edge of the mag catch bar needs to be trimmed back. The catch bar itself, If I remember correctly, needed to be have the sides thinned equally to fit the T97's slot. In addition, the protrusion that catches in the mag had to be reduced in length in order for the protrusion to lock in place in the mag. This has to do with the AR mag catch bar being shorter in overall length than the T97 catch bar and the protrusion does not line up fully with the retention slot in the mag. Also, some careful machining was needed below where the ambi lever sits, to remove a portion of the raised lip that surrounds the mag catch bar slot in the receiver.

It works, but it's not perfect. All that would be needed is for a manufacturer to increase the length of an AR catch bar to the T97 length, remove the back portion of the catch bar behind the stud, thin the catch bar itself to T97 dimensions, and increase the length of the threaded stud. Then, all that would be necessary would be a few minutes of machining on the previously mentioned lip on the receiver.
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Do you have pics of such creation?
 
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