You just described C68 and all the ensuing aftermath of the last 20+ years in a nut shell.
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You just described C68 and all the ensuing aftermath of the last 20+ years in a nut shell.
I agree with your views. Stolen gun? No officer my truck has been locked and had no signs of anything being amiss. You cant search at this time. A crimial could be under my box liner? Sure take a look.
What good could come of it? Spider-man scenario.
I still see it as a inconvience. To me it sounds like a justifable search. My day isnt isnt so important that its worth the safety of others. Someone staches a gun in my truck to get later? You'll be able to prove it...hello lawsuit.
The tin hats are resevered for the internet. We have guys at our gun range that are throwing a fit since we put up security cameras. Saying the government and ramp are going to "hack" into the system to see what guns he has....like they dont have better ways of doing that or better things to do...(current government/gun laws only) not talking future...
I agree with your views. Stolen gun? No officer my truck has been locked and had no signs of anything being amiss. You cant search at this time. A crimial could be under my box liner? Sure take a look.
What good could come of it? Spider-man scenario.
I still see it as a inconvience. To me it sounds like a justifable search. My day isnt isnt so important that its worth the safety of others. Someone staches a gun in my truck to get later? You'll be able to prove it...hello lawsuit.
The tin hats are resevered for the internet. We have guys at our gun range that are throwing a fit since we put up security cameras. Saying the government and ramp are going to "hack" into the system to see what guns he has....like they dont have better ways of doing that or better things to do...(current government/gun laws only) not talking future...
It is legal to walk with you firearms to an authorized range but I imagine it would be more trouble than its worth, get your paper work I order and walk or ride your bike. If you passed the firearms tests just spend the 100$ and get your license. If you can drive a rifle you can drive a car
Maybe this is my view because i don't any type of record. I take care not to have loose rounds or anything that would be deemed illegal. Nor do i have any friends that would be in my truck with anything illegal. Nor have i had any bad experiences with the RCMP. Only speeding in younger years, but i accepted i was breaking the law and accepted the tickets. I feel zero risk having a justifible search of my truck.
Maybe this is the key part. It's not a violation of your privacy if you allow it.
And yes i can guarantee which of MY friends do or don't smoke pot.
There was a gun stolen from our local gun store about a month ago. Had the RCMP came to my door and said they wanted to search my house without a warrent i would say no. If the gun was stolen from my neighbor, i'd still say no. However, if i was in the area with my truck and they had a check stop, stopping every car going by saying we have reason to believe the crimal stashed the firearm on someone elses car, to be retrieved later, i would let them look. By submitting to the search, it will work to my innocence if they found the firearm in the box. Sure they would have more questions, maybe even ask "to take me in" for questioning, but they couldnt hold me without charges. Any lawyer would be able to get you out, as i said before, hello lawsuit.
They can try to intimidate you all you want - they can't search without just cause, and they can't get a warrant without just cause. Saying no to a groundless warrantless search is not just cause. They can try to intimidate you, but at the end of the day, unless they have reason, they cannot search. A judge would not issue a search warrant on the basis that you said no to a warrantless search. They would have to present *some* evidence to show that they suspect it was you who stole or possesses the gun.So, let's go with your option. You politely say no and so forth. Do you think they just say, ok on your way. No, they will ask to wait and stay, followed by more questions, they try an intimatate you. Because to them you just became "supsicous" but not a suspect. So even if you have nothing illegal on your person or have the stashed gun hiding. Good won't come of it either. I bet they will even take down your name for questioning later, then if you go home and find the gun, up come more red flags.
So maybe here is the thing to do. Deny the search, be incovievenced anyway. But not have your privacy violated, as you feel. Go home, no gun. Good. Go home find the gun, throw it in the river...
Maybe this is my view because i don't any type of record. I take care not to have loose rounds or anything that would be deemed illegal. Nor do i have any friends that would be in my truck with anything illegal. Nor have i had any bad experiences with the RCMP. Only speeding in younger years, but i accepted i was breaking the law and accepted the tickets. I feel zero risk having a justifible search of my truck.
Maybe this is my view because i don't any type of record. I take care not to have loose rounds or anything that would be deemed illegal. Nor do i have any friends that would be in my truck with anything illegal. Nor have i had any bad experiences with the RCMP. Only speeding in younger years, but i accepted i was breaking the law and accepted the tickets. I feel zero risk having a justifible search of my truck.
And i'm telling you i know 100% what is in my truck because i am 100% anal when it comes to that. All 5 of my cars/trucks are spotless inside and out.
Edit: That is not illegal and has been put here by myself or by someone i have allowed into my vechical
I used to work for a major car auction business here in the GTA.
My job was to categorize cars for auction with all it's features and km's, interior trim, etc.
You would not believe the things I would find in people's car.
If you have ever bought a used car, I would fully expect that it is possible for the police to find something if they tear your car apart,
I would guess at least a 20% chance. Probably more.
Do you have kids? I bet they have at least smoked pot once.
Probably in your car that Saturday night they stayed out past home time, so you grounded him for Sunday.
Did a little piece of pot fall under the seat in the process? Oops.
Again if your talking about MY cars zero. All bought from new, never had a used car. My kids are too young, nothing illegal there. I do know people that do drugs, they've never been in my cars.
You work for a car auction company. I also bet that most of those cars are up for auction because they where taken by the police...heck that could your 20% right there. So your sample is kinda tainted. Plus your in the GTA area so there is higher drug/crime rate there. Again kinda changes your sample.
Like i said, my lifesyle yes nope to the chances of anything illegal....now ask me the same 15years ago...different answer
I have a box cover on my truck. I dont do a walk around everytime i jump in. If a cop askes to search my truck because they are looking for a criminal in the area. I'd say go ahead, Anything else i can do to help? You say your rights are being infringed upon. I say your being slightly inconvienced. What if this jumped in your truck box and you never seen him?