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Has anyone heard of any kind of mod for an M1 Garand that would modify or eliminate the enbloc clip and just allow top loading.

I have seen modifications where a M14 magazine is fitted but that's real expensive.

I figure if the system was modified so rounds could be loaded one at a time and the enbloc didn't fly out, we could put a scope on top with an extended M14.ca mount or something like that.

Sure it's not the way the rifle was designed but we wouldn't loose our clips and mounting a scope directly on top has obvious advantages.
 
BadAsMo said:
Has anyone heard of any kind of mod for an M1 Garand that would modify or eliminate the enbloc clip and just allow top loading.

I have seen modifications where a M14 magazine is fitted but that's real expensive.

I figure if the system was modified so rounds could be loaded one at a time and the enbloc didn't fly out, we could put a scope on top with an extended M14.ca mount or something like that.

Sure it's not the way the rifle was designed but we wouldn't loose our clips and mounting a scope directly on top has obvious advantages.
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I'll bet someone suggested that to Garand and he said, no, my way is better. :)
 
Clearly, the US military found ways to mount scopes.....

" The sniper versions were modified to accept scope mounts, and two versions (the M1C, formerly M1E7, and the M1D, formerly M1E8) were produced, although not in significant quantities during World War II. The only difference between the two versions is the mounting system for the telescopic sight. In June 1944, the M1C was adopted as a standard sniper rifle by the U.S. Army to supplement the venerable M1903A4. Wartime production was 7,971 M1Cs.

The procedure required to install the M1C-type mounts through drilling/tapping the hardened receiver reduced accuracy by warping the receiver. Improved methods to avoid reduction of accuracy were inefficient in terms of tooling and time. This resulted in the development of the M1D, which utilized a simpler, single-ring Springfield Armory mount attached to the barrel rather than the receiver. The M1C was first widely used during the Korean War. Korean War production was 4,796 M1Cs and 21,380 M1Ds; although few M1Ds were completed in time to see combat.

The U.S. Marine Corps adopted the M1C as their official sniper rifle in 1951. This USMC 1952 Sniper's Rifle or MC52 was an M1C with the commercial Stith Bear Cub scope manufactured by the Kollmorgen Optical Company under the military designation: Telescopic Sight - Model 4XD-USMC. The Kollmorgen scope with a slightly modified Griffin & Howe mount was designated MC-1. The MC52 was also too late to see extensive combat in Korea, but it remained in Marine Corps inventories until replaced by bolt-action rifles during the Vietnam War"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand
 
It's called a 'sled'. Made out of a regular clip and allows single round feeding. Used for target shooting. Add the W's. .foundry.ray-vin.com/m1sled/m1sled.htm
There is no way to allow more than one shot that doesn't require a complete re-design of the rifle.
JC's first rifle used a 20 round BAR mag. U.S. Army didn't want a 20 round mag for fear of troopies wasting ammo.
The Holbrook Device is for people who are too stupid to load the rifle properly. M1 Thumb is caused by operator failure.
 
sunray said:
It's called a 'sled'. Made out of a regular clip and allows single round feeding. Used for target shooting. Add the W's. .foundry.ray-vin.com/m1sled/m1sled.htm
There is no way to allow more than one shot that doesn't require a complete re-design of the rifle.
JC's first rifle used a 20 round BAR mag. U.S. Army didn't want a 20 round mag for fear of troopies wasting ammo.
The Holbrook Device is for people who are too stupid to load the rifle properly. M1 Thumb is caused by operator failure.
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Sunray: Thanks for that link. That SLED is what I use on the bench when I'm testing loads or sighting a rifle in while only using a few rounds at a time. This link that outlines how to make a SLED is sure helpful. :) I certain many M1 Garand lovers will find it valuable! :cool:

Cheers and keep on helping them nooobies :wave:

Barney
 
So what do you fellas know about the Holbrook device?
A CGNer suggested it in a PM plus this link suggested above w w w .m1thumbsaver.com

Some guys in other forums bash the Holbrook because it's slow. Keep in mind guys that I am not considering this device for any fast shooting SHTF situation... just hunting.
I'd like to put the scope in the middle - not off to the side like how it's usually done on Garands.

I'd also like to load all 8 rounds - not just one.

I don't care if it's a bit slow to load and unload one by one.
 
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