Fixed Butt Stock on JR Non Restricted...........Why??

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From RCMP website:

Restricted firearms include:
- semi-automatic, centre-fire rifles and shotguns with a barrel shorter than 470 mm........18.5"
- rifles and shotguns that can be fired when their overall length has been reduced by folding, telescoping or other means to less than 660 mm........26"


Why do Canadian dealers sell only the fixed stock model, when the adjustable, telescoping stock cannot go short enough to make the overall length restricted??

I would like to buy a JR in .40 S&W, with an 18.6" barrel and telescoping stock.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
I think when I got my JR a few years back they told me it had to be pinned as an export requirement from the USA. I just drilled the pin out removed the stock and added a Magpul MOE.
 
All the models i've seen are the 9mm and have a telescoping stock (including the one i own). I have yet to see a .40 but i find it unlikely that they wouldn't also have the 18.6 inch barrels.
 
Do you want to pay them $100 to do 30 seconds worth of work or would you rather do it yourself?

From a business sense, if one dealer advertises a fixed stock and another advertises an adjustable stock, I expect the the latter will sell his first. A smart dealer would drill the pin for free :)

And by the way, I never said that I wasn't willing to drill it myself ;)
 
The early import JR carbines had a hole drilled through the plastic carbine stock and flange of the receiver extension, and a hollow roll pin inserted.
All the ones I have seen, other than those early imports have carbine stocks which are NOT pinned in place.
 
From a business sense, if one dealer advertises a fixed stock and another advertises an adjustable stock, I expect the the latter will sell his first. A smart dealer would drill the pin for free :)

And by the way, I never said that I wasn't willing to drill it myself ;)

Just saying that since they seem to charge an extra $15 just to put a three cent rivet into a Pmag I'd rather they just pass it along to the customer without even touching it.
 
(OK. Now that the butt stock question has been answered,) I have another question, whereas the concept of a semi-auto rifle, in a pistol cartridge, is totally new to me.

Does the magazine need to be pinned to five, for me to shoot a non restricted JR on my own land (I.e. during a hunting season when a centerfire rifle is allowed)?

I'm aware of the rifle cartridge law and the rimfire law, when it comes to semi rifles (in my province, where all shooting, off of an approved range, is deemed hunting).
 
(OK. Now that the butt stock question has been answered,) I have another question, whereas the concept of a semi-auto rifle, in a pistol cartridge, is totally new to me.

Does the magazine need to be pinned to five, for me to shoot a non restricted JR on my own land (I.e. during a hunting season when a centerfire rifle is allowed)?

I'm aware of the rifle cartridge law and the rimfire law, when it comes to semi rifles (in my province, where all shooting, off of an approved range, is deemed hunting).

So shooting paper targets is hunting ? lol Do you need a tag , what's the bag limit on paper ? :rolleyes:
10 rnd pistol mag in JR carbine is legal
 
I found actual instructions, for pin removal.

The stocks on the JR carbines coming into Canada are fixed with a roll pin so they can't be adjusted. A lot of people have been asking how to remove the roll pin so the gun is adjustable. Here is the method recommended by the folks at JR carbines in New York. This was posted by Miranda B, a spokesperson for JR:

Our fixed-length stocks are commercial dimension (not milspec) collapsible stocks that have been pinned here at our factory. The pinning is accomplished by drilling through one side of the stock body and into - but not through - the locking rail on the bottom of the stock body/buffer tube and then pressing in a 1/8-inch roll pin. This method meets the legal requirement that the pinning method not be readily undone. Having said that, shooters who wanted to convert their pinned stocks back to original (i.e. when relocating to an unrestricted jurisdiction) have been known to run a 1/16-inch drill bit through the center of the roll pin and out the other side of the stock body, and then use the 1/16-inch hole as a pilot hole to drill back through the stock body to the end of the roll pin so they could drive the pin out of the stock with a 1/8-inch punch.
 
This one is for sale at TheGunDealer in McAdam NB for $999.

Add says the rear stock is adjustable.

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