A review of the Benelli M4, Mesa Urbino stock, and other add ons

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Stock M4 with factory fixed stock and "C-stock"

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My Benelli M4 as it is now

Sorry if this ends up a bit long winded but I would like to make this review pretty thorough. A lot of reviews just say "It's awesome! Best shotgun ever!"

I love my M4 but I thought it had some drawbacks that had to be overcome. I hope this review will be helpful to other new Benelli owners who have experienced the same thing.

I have had my Benelli M4 for about three years now. When I was a kid I played the SWAT computer game (great game for gun nuts before the internet was big: actual bullet drop and wind value charts, how to make ghillie suits tutorials, specs on everything from Surefire lights to Black Talon ammunition) and I loved the Benelli M3.

I later found out the M3 was prohibited in Canada and after buying a few 870's and an 1187 that left a lot to be desired. I bought an M4 with the C-stock as it seemed to be the top of the line semi auto shotgun on the market.

Since then I have fired thousands of rounds, mostly shooting clays and in 3 Gun competitions plus I have bagged three coyotes with it as well as numerous water filled milk jugs. It is my go to gun at night on the farm.

The Benelli M4:

I paid $2149 three years ago but resale value is quite good. A lot of money but it is almost the exact shotgun the Marine Corps uses so I figured it was worth it, plus it looked cool with that stock.

The pros:

One of the first things that I noticed was the M4's finish is amazing. After three years it#has held up very well and still looks like new. The action is very slick and the sights are very easy to use.

The M4 uses the ARGO gas operating system unlike the recoil operated M1 and M2 which means it is not affected by the weight of accessories. I don't know how important this is as the recoil guns can take some add-ons without issue.

The ergonomics are very similar to the 870 with the shell release taking the place of the action release so if you own 870's like I do you don't have to try to remember where everything is. The safety is in the same as well except the right side has a triangular plate on the button you can feel with your fingertip if the safety is on.

The pistol grip feels great in the hand and the forend is also quite comfortable. The gun can be ghost loaded with a round on the lifter to increase capacity by one. Recoil is quite manageable. I have heard the M4 can have issues feeding light loads unless it is broken in. I had a few fail to cycle when I first got it but it has not happened since then and I have used almsot every kind of light target load there is. It is very reliable.

Accuracy with slugs is quite good. I noticed it much prefers Winchester Super X slugs. It patterns well with the factory modified choke.

The cons:

This shotgun is great. It is awesome like everyone says, but it does have some drawbacks especially for the price. A lot of these things wouldn't be a big issue except the gun is marketed as "modular" but there are a limited number of aftermarket options.

First my biggest complaint, the stock. The collapsible stock looks cool but that's about where the benefits end. The biggest issue is length of pull. It's 14.38" fully extended. I am 6' tall and it is way too long for me. In the middle position it is a much more comfortable length but the ghost ring sights are extremely difficult to use as the cheek piece is too high. Fully collapsed it is unusable and it only takes less than 6" off the overall length for storage.

To adjust it you must push a button rotate the stock 45 degrees, pull it out, then rotate it back. It is difficult to do quickly and it needs to be kept lubricated. It isn't quick to use like an AR-15 collapsible stock.

Another issue is the capacity. It only holds four 3" shells or five 2.75" shells, one less than it can legally hold in Canada. With ghost loading that gives you 5+1+1. That's fine for clays, plinking, and hunting but it sucks to lose that extra round in action shooting and for the fact that it's just not holding as many as it could.

From here the complaints are pretty minor.

The action release button. For a button you push almost every time you load the gun it's very small and requires a lot of pressure. With winter gloves it becomes a real pain.

Accessorizability, if that's a word. For a shotgun that is unaffected by the weight of accessories there aren't a lot of places to add them. You can find stuff but options are limited. There are sling mounts and there is a rail for optics but just a heads up about that: the screws in my rail shook loose after I tightened them and I lost a few. Replacements were expensive at $7 a screw. Use loctite on these!

The gun is also a bit heavy compared to the recoil operated guns. Not a lot but it does make it a bit harder to swing the shotgun onto a target.
 
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Add ons

The accessories:

Options are limited but there some pretty usable items out there. I haven't tried everything on the market for the M4 but these are some of the products I have found that worked well.

Enlarged bolt handle:

I got this from Canadian Tactical Cowboy Supplies. It was relatively inexpensive and works very well. While it wasn't an essential upgrade the fastest way to do a slug changeover with a Benelli is to hold the bolt open with your right hand and port load a slug with your left and the enlarged handle is nice.

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You can see the knurled aftermarket bolt handle and the small factory action release button.

Magazine extension:

Also got this from CTCS. When I picked this up these were hard to find. It installs quite easily. I had heard some people have trouble getting the factory one loose and have to heat it up with a hair dryer but mine came right off.

The only drawback to this extension is it holds six rounds of 3" as is. I had to screw a plug into the magazine spring retaining cap to block it to 5.9 shells.

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You can see the tube extension compared to the factory one with the sci-fi looking rings, as well as alien looking lamb in the background

Light mount:

This was one of the trickier items to find. There are several brands of replacement forends with some having terrible quality control issues and needing an hour of trimming and fitting to work. The Surefire one is supposed to be really good but it is not readily available in Canada.

I only wanted a forend to mount a light so I thought perhaps a clamp alone would work. After trying some expensive metal ones I found an old plastic ATI mag tube clamp I had got from Marstar I used to mount a Streamlight Scorpion that has worked amazingly. It has held up to a lot of shooting and has had no issues.

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The remarkably sturdy ATI barrel/light clamp with Streamlight Scorpion light

Shell carrier:

Mesa makes a side saddle carrier that replaces the optics mounting rail with one that has the shell carrier attached. I'm sure this is a good unit but seeing as I don't even plan on mounting optics it seemed like a lot of money.

I chose an elastic loop seven shot side saddle from S&J Hardware. I cut a small hole in the side that stuck on the gun for the trigger group retention pin to pass though and that was it. If the elastic loops wear out I can just mount a new one by pulling off the velcro. Being velcro it also let's you take the loops off to either lighten the gun or switch out for a differant carrier with a different load.

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Elastic velcro on shell carrier from S&J

Mesa Tactical Urbino stock:

This stock completely changed my M4 for me and was what made me decide to write this review. I ordered the version with the cheek riser from Wolverine Supplies. It has a 12.5" length of pull, about 2" shorter than the factory stock.

Installation took about ten minutes and was very straightforward. One forum poster strongly advised against loctiting the retaining bolt as it can cause problems.

The pistol grip initially felt weird in the hand and too square at the back but when it was actually installed it felt just fine. Apparantly you can replace the rubber grip cover with a Benelli one and it will feel the same as the factory.

The cheek riser slips on during installation and the height can be adjusted. I found that the lowest setting worked great without optics. The side of the riser has spots to bolt on a Sureshell shell carrier.

There is a sling mount in the middle of the stock that is optional. It rattles a bit but is better with a sling on it. I used a VTAC sling and I really like it. There is also a sling stud on the bottom to mount a sling more conventionally.

The stock I bought came with a Limbsaver recoil pad. I really like these pads and it is probably better than the factory one.

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Mesa Tactical Urbino stock with cheek riser and attached VTAC sling

With this stock installed the M4 became a whole new gun. Before it was a stretch and a struggle to see the sights. Now it is much more natural and much quicker. If I had to set up a display model of the M4 it would have this stock as it would feel so much better to so many more people. The cheek rest is also more comfortable.

My only complaint was the plastic wedge be in hind the trigger guard that acts as a shelf for your middle finger had some sharp edges and corners. Nothing too bad but I taped off the trigger guard and filed them down and now it's great.

ATI also makes a stock and forend replacement but in my opinion it looks terrible and you can't buy the pieces separately. I don't think it could be any better quality than this one although the stock is collapsible with more positions.

I don't know what the USMC obsession is with such long lengths of pull (the M16A2 had a 1" increase in LOP over the A1 and now the A4 is the same length and looks very awkward to use with body armour) but this seems to be the way the gun was meant to be used.



Well I hope somebody found this review helpful. If anyone else has anything they would like to add please do, perhaps something on some of the accessories I haven't tried yet. Or maybe you felt a bit differantly about some things than I did.

These shotguns are great but I don't think they are perfect out of the box. They are quite an investment but they hold up well and won't let you down.
 
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Great review!

I've used M4s with the oversized action release from S&J Hardware. Makes it MUCH easier to use!

BTW: how do you find the Urbino stock?

Oh shoot you were too fast for me. I didn't get a chance to publish the second half yet lol.

It is a huge improvement. I was reluctant to take off a piece that was going for $800 in the US but I guess that doesn't mean it works.

I will have to get an enlarged release too I guess. Thanks for the review on that. I hope more people chime in with what they have done to theirs and what worked and didn't work.
 
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I've thought about buying one several times but between being somewhat muzzle heavy for my tastes, and my not being a fan of ghost rings, I've always passed.
 
Whats the difference in those three guns the last looks different in the receiver. keep seeing this pic and cant figure out why
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Stock M4 with factory fixed stock and "C-stock"

tkm2uH.jpg

My Benelli M4 as it is now

Sorry if this ends up a bit long winded but I would like to make this review pretty thorough. A lot of reviews just say "It's awesome! Best shotgun ever!"

I love my M4 but I thought it had some drawbacks that had to be overcome. I hope this review will be helpful to other new Benelli owners who have experienced the same thing.

I have had my Benelli M4 for about three years now. When I was a kid I played the SWAT computer game (great game for gun nuts before the internet was big: actual bullet drop and wind value charts, how to make ghillie suits tutorials, specs on everything from Surefire lights to Black Talon ammunition) and I loved the Benelli M3.

I later found out the M3 was prohibited in Canada and after buying a few 870's and an 1187 that left a lot to be desired. I bought an M4 with the C-stock as it seemed to be the top of the line semi auto shotgun on the market.

Since then I have fired thousands of rounds, mostly shooting clays and in 3 Gun competitions plus I have bagged three coyotes with it as well as numerous water filled milk jugs. It is my go to gun at night on the farm.

The Benelli M4:

I paid $2149 three years ago but resale value is quite good. A lot of money but it is almost the exact shotgun the Marine Corps uses so I figured it was worth it, plus it looked cool with that stock.

The pros:

One of the first things that I noticed was the M4's finish is amazing. After three years it#has held up very well and still looks like new. The action is very slick and the sights are very easy to use.

The M4 uses the ARGO gas operating system unlike the recoil operated M1 and M2 which means it is not affected by the weight of accessories. I don't know how important this is as the recoil guns can take some add-ons without issue.

The ergonomics are very similar to the 870 with the shell release taking the place of the action release so if you own 870's like I do you don't have to try to remember where everything is. The safety is in the same as well except the right side has a triangular plate on the button you can feel with your fingertip if the safety is on.

The pistol grip feels great in the hand and the forend is also quite comfortable. The gun can be ghost loaded with a round on the lifter to increase capacity by one. Recoil is quite manageable. I have heard the M4 can have issues feeding light loads unless it is broken in. I had a few fail to cycle when I first got it but it has not happened since then and I have used almsot every kind of light target load there is. It is very reliable.

Accuracy with slugs is quite good. I noticed it much prefers Winchester Super X slugs. It patterns well with the factory modified choke.

The cons:

This shotgun is great. It is awesome like everyone says, but it does have some drawbacks especially for the price. A lot of these things wouldn't be a big issue except the gun is marketed as "modular" but there are a limited number of aftermarket options.

First my biggest complaint, the stock. The collapsible stock looks cool but that's about where the benefits end. The biggest issue is length of pull. It's 14.38" fully extended. I am 6' tall and it is way too long for me. In the middle position it is a much more comfortable length but the ghost ring sights are extremely difficult to use as the cheek piece is too high. Fully collapsed it is unusable and it only takes less than 6" off the overall length for storage.

To adjust it you must push a button rotate the stock 45 degrees, pull it out, then rotate it back. It is difficult to do quickly and it needs to be kept lubricated. It isn't quick to use like an AR-15 collapsible stock.

Another issue is the capacity. It only holds four 3" shells or five 2.75" shells, one less than it can legally hold in Canada. With ghost loading that gives you 5+1+1. That's fine for clays, plinking, and hunting but it sucks to lose that extra round in action shooting and for the fact that it's just not holding as many as it could.

From here the complaints are pretty minor.

The action release button. For a button you push almost every time you load the gun it's very small and requires a lot of pressure. With winter gloves it becomes a real pain.

Accessorizability, if that's a word. For a shotgun that is unaffected by the weight of accessories there aren't a lot of places to add them. You can find stuff but options are limited. There are sling mounts and there is a rail for optics but just a heads up about that: the screws in my rail shook loose after I tightened them and I lost a few. Replacements were expensive at $7 a screw. Use loctite on these!

The gun is also a bit heavy compared to the recoil operated guns. Not a lot but it does make it a bit harder to swing the shotgun onto a target.
 
Don't bother with the B&T rail - it's heavy and not as comfy as the stock fore-end. How much stuff other than a light will you realistically put on the shotgun? Vert grips/AFG blows chunks, and not like you need a bipod or other crap.

Also - the large carrier release IS worth the cash. Oh and the Field (traditional style) stock is also fantastic - never been a fan of the Benelli pistol grips.

The Scalarworx RMR rail allows an RMR to co-witness - it's THE best optic solution for the Benelli M4. Without a doubt.

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