The way they are usually loaded, my STWs recoil a bit less than my .300s. The line gets a little blurry with the heaviest VLD bullets in the STW and "Standard weight" .300s but in a general sort of way the STWs kick less. There was a time back around '90 when the little difference landed right at my tolerance level and was the difference between fun and no fun. Times change, and I've since come to re-appreciate the virtues of Winchesters big 30 cal.
any reason NOT to use 300wm for long distance?
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The way they are usually loaded, my STWs recoil a bit less than my .300s. The line gets a little blurry with the heaviest VLD bullets in the STW and "Standard weight" .300s but in a general sort of way the STWs kick less. There was a time back around '90 when the little difference landed right at my tolerance level and was the difference between fun and no fun. Times change, and I've since come to re-appreciate the virtues of Winchesters big 30 cal.
Truck axle barrels and brakes can account for most of that.
300WM is a POS belted mag where the cartridge flops around in the chamber, that must be why it recoils so hard.
The 338LM recoils like a 223 and can shoot 10 shot, one hole groups at 1000y ALL DAY LONG!!
Duh..... Google it.
But in all seriousness, the 300WM is proven performer, there's really no reason not to use it for long distance.
Is there better options out there? Maybe, but you have to decide if the cartridge fits your criteria, if so, then your good to go!
Is there better options out there? Maybe, but you have to decide if the cartridge fits your criteria, if so, then your good to go!
Yeah but at a much higher price tag, the .338 is a 2 mile gun...I don't think it's on the same level here. The 300 win mag is still at the average joe level...the .338 LM isn't. Shooting a 338lm at 300 yards is almost like shooting a .308 at 50
I went .300WM for my first big boy rifle because I wanted something to hunt, target shoot and play with. I'm very impressed with the accuracy so far, and I'm looking forward to loading some U.S. .30 AP bullets to test out against some hard steel I have put aside.
338LM is a 2 mile caliber?? What is this world coming to.
A 300wm with a 230gr berger hybrid target is a solid performer. Its only behind a 338LM with a 300gr berger OTM about 200-300 yards.
If you choose to shoot a 300gr SMK then you will have litte to no advantage over a 300wm - 230gr berger combo.
As mentioned earlier, it's Precision Rifle. When people use 'PR' on here, they're referring to the Canadian versions which are shot on a square ranges, one distance at a time like F-Class. It should not be confused with PRS, which is the Precision Rifle Series shot in the US. PRS is NOT the same as the various versions of PR we shoot in Canada. We have nothing like it here. It is usually held on private land, or private ranges that allow targets at varying distances to be shot from the same firing point during the same string of fire. It is the most realistic/practical long range shooting sport out there.
Some Vids of PRS:
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Nice video of a running stage posted on Facebook recently:
https://www.facebook.com/jon.geib.3/videos/10205467266254837/
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Chris Kyle's favorite caliber was 300 Win Mag, so that's a pretty good endorsement.
I like 300 WM because of the easier to find and less expensive reloading components like 30 cal bullets and brass. Also the the 208 grn AMAX has a higher G7 BC than the 240 grn SMK(according to Litz), so you can reach out. The recoil isn't too bad eigther when firing from a bull barrel.
I like 300 WM because of the easier to find and less expensive reloading components like 30 cal bullets and brass. Also the the 208 grn AMAX has a higher G7 BC than the 240 grn SMK(according to Litz), so you can reach out. The recoil isn't too bad eigther when firing from a bull barrel.
It was his preferred "issued" gun. His personal rifle was in .308 so take that for what it's worth
the 300 WM is one of the best caliber for long range shooting. If you get a fairly heavy rifle (16-18 lbs) the recoil won't bother you what so ever, my daughter shoots my 300 all the time and she is 100 pounds.
I shoot the 300 WM, the 338 wm and the 338 Lapua Mag, all heavy tactical rifles. I love them all !!!!
Savage 110 BA in 300wm (I mostly shoot 230 grs (reload) but the factory Hornady match 195 grs is amazingly accurate.)
Savage 116 in 338wm (I Mostly shoot 250 and 300 grs)
HS Precision Pro Series 2000 HTR in 338 Lapua (I Mostly shoot 250 and 300 grs)
The 300wm is a great caliber for LR shooting, you can't go wrong with it
have fun !
I shoot the 300 WM, the 338 wm and the 338 Lapua Mag, all heavy tactical rifles. I love them all !!!!
Savage 110 BA in 300wm (I mostly shoot 230 grs (reload) but the factory Hornady match 195 grs is amazingly accurate.)
Savage 116 in 338wm (I Mostly shoot 250 and 300 grs)
HS Precision Pro Series 2000 HTR in 338 Lapua (I Mostly shoot 250 and 300 grs)
The 300wm is a great caliber for LR shooting, you can't go wrong with it
have fun !
6.5x55 all day, every day over the 300wm. For targets and hunting.
Lapua brass, no messing with belted cases when reloading (they're a pain if you've never dealt with them before), mild recoil, wide performance envelope, less cost.
300 win mag with a 208 Amax, 2924 fps (62,000psi chamber)
-1200 yards-1366fps, 501 inches total drop, 3.21 moa for 5 mph cross wind.
6.5x55 with 140 hybrid, 2963fps (62,000psi chamber)
-1200 yards-1331fps, 505 inches total drop, 3.61 moa for 5 mph cross wind.
Not much ballistics difference for double the recoil, more powder used, and the pain in the ass that is belted cases.
Lapua brass, no messing with belted cases when reloading (they're a pain if you've never dealt with them before), mild recoil, wide performance envelope, less cost.
300 win mag with a 208 Amax, 2924 fps (62,000psi chamber)
-1200 yards-1366fps, 501 inches total drop, 3.21 moa for 5 mph cross wind.
6.5x55 with 140 hybrid, 2963fps (62,000psi chamber)
-1200 yards-1331fps, 505 inches total drop, 3.61 moa for 5 mph cross wind.
Not much ballistics difference for double the recoil, more powder used, and the pain in the ass that is belted cases.
More care required during casing resizing and prep. Making sure you're headspacing off the shoulder rather than the belt.
Bumping the shoulder with a neck die builds a case bulge up in front of the belt after a while. Nothing that can't be worked around, but it always annoyed me as there is no point to a belt on a shouldered cartridge.
