Dropping the slide on a Glock

The slide is metal, whether it's a Glock or a 1911 or Sig or Beretta. So are the rails.

It goes into battery after firing a round at what.......over the speed of sound? I doubt releasing the slide on an empty chamber will harm the chunk of steel or stainless steel.
 
misanthropist said:
Because the gun wouldn't have necessarily been loaded with two broken rails.

Nobody is saying it's likely at all.

But when I see people saying "that's impossible" I think it's worth pointing out that it's actually totally possible under the right conditions.
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The "right conditions" you speak of are ripe with user error which removes the liability from the pistol and it's design. The reality is that the BS stories of Glock's just going off while attempting to holster are just a cover up for poor handling that lead to something entering the trigger guard and depressing the trigger. All of the above is user error. Keep sh*t away from your holster, cut the tabs and cord locks off your coats and pay attention, reholstering is not a race.

TW25B
 
Melnibonean said:
The slide is metal, whether it's a Glock or a 1911 or Sig or Beretta. So are the rails.

It goes into battery after firing a round at what.......over the speed of sound? I doubt releasing the slide on an empty chamber will harm the chunk of steel or stainless steel.
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And no, it does not return to battery "..over the speed of sound" nowhere even close...

TW25B
 
TW25B said:
And no, it does not return to battery "..over the speed of sound" nowhere even close...

TW25B
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Sorry.....no facetious emoticon.

Google-Fu reveale a cycling time of 0.1 seconds on a Glock 27 Gen4. I'm sure if someone were to crunch the numbers using the slide's mass, one could calculate the force that slide would strike home with. I'm willing to bet it would be higher than when it's released from lock, and, it's done as often as the capacity of the mag allows
 
TW25B said:
The "right conditions" you speak of are ripe with user error which removes the liability from the pistol and it's design. The reality is that the BS stories of Glock's just going off while attempting to holster are just a cover up for poor handling that lead to something entering the trigger guard and depressing the trigger. All of the above is user error. Keep sh*t away from your holster, cut the tabs and cord locks off your coats and pay attention, reholstering is not a race.

TW25B
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So what? Obviously anyone who's running around with a pistol with two broken rails has major user error written all over him.

I'm just pointing out that when you wrote:

if you fully understood how a Glock pistol is designed you would understand that with or without one two three or four rails the pistol CANNOT be discharged without something contacting the trigger and depressing it to the rear. The striker is never charged on a Glock, this was mentioned several posts back. Glock pistols are known as "SAFE DOUBLE ACTION" designs, the striker is fully charged when the trigger is depressed all the way to the rear. It is at this point and this point only that the striker and crucible sear separate. It is IMPOSSIBLE for the striker to slip or otherwise release prematurely unless the trigger is depressed all the way to the rear. It is also impossible for the striker to release period as the striker spring is NOT UNDER COMPRESSION unless the trigger is pulled. The striker cannot reach the primer unless the trigger is depressed due to the FIRING PIN BLOCK.

Tearing a rail off makes no difference to the operation of a Glock pistol. Separating the slide from frame would separate the striker from the crucible sear making the gun completely inoperable
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you were wrong, and you probably shouldn't have jumped all over the guy with that.

If you were looking for something to rant about, you should have gone after his "glocks don't need oil" comment...because that's about as wrong as "no Glock can fire without the trigger being pressed, no matter what the circumstances".
 
misanthropist said:
So what? Obviously anyone who's running around with a pistol with two broken rails has major user error written all over him.

I'm just pointing out that when you wrote:



you were wrong, and you probably shouldn't have jumped all over the guy with that.

If you were looking for something to rant about, you should have gone after his "glocks don't need oil" comment...because that's about as wrong as "no Glock can fire without the trigger being pressed, no matter what the circumstances".
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Check my quoted post Misanthropist, "if you fully understood how a Glock pistol is designed " The key word is designed. Under normal conditions of a full functional pistol which is entirely the responsibility of the user, the Glock cannot fire without the striker being charged which requires an extraordinary piece of debris to slip between the slide and frame as well as an additional piece of debris to disable the firing pin block as well as compress the striker spring and release it. As you posted, it could happen, if the completely unrealistic and near impossible conditions above are met. About the same possibility as Wendy Cukier being a covert pro gun advocate pushing for suppressors CCW and full auto for all.

A Glock with a missing rail is not going to discharge out of the blue unless something contacted the trigger and depressed it. That is my point, that is the issue being discussed with regards to the BS stories of Glock's discharging when being holstered. Fabricating the perfect storm to validate that "it could" happen is of no benefit and very unrealistic. The perfect storm hinges on severe negligence by the user which should that be the case the user deserves a bullet in the leg.

TW25B
 
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