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Light Infantry said:
Killing Russians is serious business and there were a lot to (and were) kill(ed).
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kjohn said:
Nikita Khrushchev, in his memoirs, figured around a million were lost on the Winter War alone. The Soviets, of course, put the figures much, much lower. They put the figure at: Dead or missing around 125,000. In those days, you would have needed to go outside to check if the Communists said it was daylight.

Edit: No different these days. At least we know now that whatever a commie says, there is a 99% chance it is BS.
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Dark Alley Dan said:
Glad your Grandpa made it through the war with his hide mostly intact, Eugene. Sounds like he was a very lucky man.

I'd always heard the Soviet invasion of Finland was a baldly aggressive move by Stalin et. al. Hadn't heard about it as a defensive move, nor anything about a land exchange. Are there any sources I could read to learn more about this?
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Unfortunately in russians archives only .
 
scott585 said:
it was an aggressive move, the soviets wanted the land near leningrad, worth 30% of the finnish economy, and offered more (but less valuable) land in exchange. the finns refused and so it began. the finns didnt have any signifigant ties to the nazis until the war started, it was actually france and britain who offered the most help.

try wikipedia
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Where did you get this ????? Google doesn't know, Wiki also .
 
MarkCNP said:
Just give me the FAL

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Rear echelon posing maybe. Don't see any brass.

Their radar hasn't acquired the enemy yet lurking in the distance somewhat to their left.........

They can keep the cheek slapping FAL's as well.:p
 
Eugene

If you want to be an apologist for Russian aggression in Finland, by all means, but start another thread. I frankly, and I am sure others dont want to hear your drivel here in this thread.

The Russians invaded and were the aggressors. The reasons dont really matter in the end; they were wrong and got their asses handed to them.

Oh BTW, the Finns killed a ton of Russians, but not nearly enough during the invasion of their homeland.

Let's not forget that Russia gave the Germans the ability to invade Poland and start WW2 by signing a pact and splitting Poland between themselves and allowing the Germans to leave their Eastern flank unprotected for awhile.
 
EugeneLED said:
My grandpa was on that war , he was red army gunner first lieutenant in 1939 , it was a hard time , he was wounded by finish sniper right in the top of hiss skull , after that , he passed whole WW2 without any damage and finish his war in far east at pacific ocean fighting with japanese army in China .
There was a point of this war , cause that time Finland was ally with nazi Germany and the boarder was just 20 km away from Leningrad (St.Petersburg , former capital of Russian Empire ) In the beginning soviets suggest to Finland to move board 100 km away from Leningrad , for that they promised to give 2 times more territory upnorth , finns reject this offer . After that soviet made provocation on the border territory and starts that war .
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No one wants land further north in the arctic...Especially in 1939.

Canada should offer the US a land swap of Washington state for more land in the northern Yukon and NWT. And then invade when the US refuses...after all it was a really good offer.

Your time line is somewhat incorrect to, in 1939 Nazis Germany and Soviet Russia were allied and Russia invaded Poland, and Finland, and forced Latvia and Estonia to accept Soviet troops and military bases. In May-June 1940 the Soviets gave up on their pretenses and actually invaded the Baltic republics.
Coincidentally this was shortly after forcing the Finns to cede Karalina.

Finland was supplied fighting aircraft by England and France to fight the the Soviet invader, in the fall 1939/spring 1940, Britain and France offered to land an expeditionary force of 50,000 men to assist the Finns fighting the Nazi Allied Soviet invader. Apparently this was part of the reason that Stalin offered an armistice with Finnland.

After the fall of France in mid 1940 and the June 1941 German invasion of Russia, the Finns really had no choice but to turn to Germany for supplies and support against Russia. The British were then in the difficult position of withdrawing their support of Finland while beginning to supply the Soviet Union...
 
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not hard to see how a bunch of land full of lakes or on the coast would be very valuable to finland, fishing, shipping, hydro for manufacturing, etc.

it was not until december of 1940 that finland and nazi germany had any significant ties, the germans even blockaded finland preventing the delivery of italian equipment.

stalin stopped because the incredible losses were becoming an embarrassment. losses of thousands of tanks, hundreds of aircraft, hundreds of thousands of men to a country with a hodgepodge of outdated equipment and an army of 1/5th the size was showing the red army to be a laughing stock.

finland having a very small army and suffering its own political turmoil was in no position to invade the soviet union in 1939.
 
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