Walthers PPX range kit versus S&W M&P 9 range kit

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I'm trying to choose between the Smith and Wesson M&P 9 range kit and the Walthers PPX range kit as my first handgun. I've rented the M&P9 at my local range and liked the feel. It certainly was more accurate than I am so leaves lots of opportunity for my skills to grow. I haven't found the PPX in stock locally so haven't bee nable to check the feel of the gun yet. In addition to target shooting I'd like to be able to use the gun as I explore IPSC shooting (when my experience increases). A big consideration for me is the price difference with the PPX being $499.99 and the M&P 9 being $689.99.

Any comment or guidance will be much appreciated.
 
There are a few guys here with a lot of rounds through their M&P's (me included), I haven't seen anyone posting about even 10K through a Walther, if you might shoot IPSC, how does the Walther hold up to high round counts? How about the cost of magazines, and availability? Parts availability for both could be an issue, though the M&P is very rugged and doesn't require a lot of maintenance. Again, I'm unsure about the Walther since no one has posted about a high round count gun, but the P99 on which it was based had a reputation for being a little fragile. Just my very biased 2 cents.
 
Have a M&P 40 range kit and it's been a great firearm so far(1000 rounds). It comes with a lot of goodies and has never failed to go bang. I find it both comfortable and accurate. I can't comment on the PPX as I've never shot or even handled one.
Good luck and enjoy!
 
The M&P range kit actually comes with a perfectly usable Blade-Tech holster. The Walther comes with what appears to be a cheap copy of a Serpa retention holster. It may be difficult to find a quality holster for the PPX. Also, I'm not too sure about extra magazine availability.

For a couple hundred dollars difference, I would pick the M&P as a known quantity. The cost difference is negligible relative to what you will spend on ammo in the long run if you do any significant volume of shooting.
 
I went with the m&p 9 range kit, the ppq was one of my other considerations. After talking to a few people I kept hearing that if I ever needed waranty work or parts the s&w was the easier of the two in that dept. My m&p has been trouble free, probably have around 2000 rds through it if I had to guess.
 
The PPQ was an evolution of the P99, both proven designs. The PPX incorporates manufacturing efficiencies, which contributes to their lower price. Not sure how they'll effect long-run reliability.

Walther is well-supported in Canada... Montreal PD has used the P99 for 15 years, and just announced the PPQ as their next sidearm. Don't think they would have done so if support was an issue...

Availability of mags and holsters for the PPX is an issue as it's fairly new. That said, I find the Walther trigger faaaaar better than the M and P. Then again, a $150 Apex kit will give the Smith a fine trigger

If you're worried about reliability, accessories or mags there is one clear option: Glock. That said, I think you have nothing to fear from Walther or M and P.
 
They are, I'm a lefty as well. My choices for ambidextrous handguns were

M&P
PPQ
CZ85
Beretta 92f

All had ambidextrous features, I will be picking up a CZ85/85 Combat fairly soon. Out of the three I got to shoot the CZ was my favourite. I still went with the m&p in the end though.

But I find that shooting a right handed gun isn't a big deal, it's just getting used to doing actions with the other hand. More the slide lock/release than anything but I tend to rack the slide to chamber a round than drop the slide by the release, mag release is fine from a right hand operation if there's no option of reversing it.
 
I can't comment on the Walther, but the M&P9 goes on sale now and then. I got mine for $599. I've seen them at Al Flaherty's and Jo-Brooks at this price.
 
Walknby said:
Thanks everyone for your replies. I neglected to say I am also a lefty but both guns appear to be pretty good for left handed operation.
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I am a lefty too. I own an M&P a 2 PPQs and a Sig P320...all 3 are good choices, best would be if you could handle them before buying.
As mentioned by other members, I would stay away of the PPX, especially if you try/plan to buy extra mags.
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I think i will be the first to say ppx over the m&p. For the amount of money you will spend to fix the m&p trigger you will be in p320, m&p pro, glock, cz shadow territory. So you might as well invest in one of those from the start. Otherwise save the money buy the ppx, buy extra mags and that's it. Don't overspend on any of these 2. But the ppx wins in value, trigger, ergonomics, & quality (fit & finish). Just my opinion after owning both.
 
I had a BNIB ppx....loved the look of it, seemed well built, but that palm swell grip really didn't fit my hand...so sadly I never shot it and traded on....nice pistol, nice kit....just not for me...
 
"you get what you pay for" rule applies. M&P40 kit has better value for sure. better holster, a great speedloader which does NOT come with PPX. much easier to find parts, mags and upgrades than ppx.
I got 9mm conversion barrel. so 2 guns in one. And my Apex flat face trigger kit is on the way which will bring the trigger to a 1911 like trigger if I want(adjustable from 2.x - 5 pound). if you are going to do IPSC, it will be way better setup than PPX.


Walknby said:
I'm trying to choose between the Smith and Wesson M&P 9 range kit and the Walthers PPX range kit as my first handgun. I've rented the M&P9 at my local range and liked the feel. It certainly was more accurate than I am so leaves lots of opportunity for my skills to grow. I haven't found the PPX in stock locally so haven't bee nable to check the feel of the gun yet. In addition to target shooting I'd like to be able to use the gun as I explore IPSC shooting (when my experience increases). A big consideration for me is the price difference with the PPX being $499.99 and the M&P 9 being $689.99.

Any comment or guidance will be much appreciated.
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People always say how terrible the trigger on the m&p is but I don't find mine to be bad at all, the reset on it is quite decent actually. It's a bit gritty on the pull but not overly, maybe I got a newer production model with the better trigger for all I know, I took a good look at the slide release lever recently and it has the upgraded reinforced version that's got an extra weld on it.

It's not as crisp as say a Glock but it's pretty noticeable in the reset dept.
 
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