Speer .308 168g target match load data?

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On a whim I decided to try some Speer .308 168g target match, but i didn't realize how hard it would be to find load data on the internet. I assume it would be roughly the same as 168g SMK's, but i would like to be sure. I dont really want to buy the Speer reloading book just to try a new bullet. Could someone out there let me know the starting and max amount of Varget i should use?

Thanks,
 
The manuals are based on THEIR rifle, not yours. Start at 41.0 and test up to 44.0 of Varget in 0.5 gr increments, to see what works. This is for commercial brass, not military. I would start with the bullet about 20 thou off the rifling.
 
I'm not suggesting what you do, but I'll tell you what I'd do ;);
I'd load 'em as a 168gr bullet of like/kind/quality.

That said, Speer number 13 says;
168gr 30 BT HP-Match Speer # 2040
Varget- 42.0 @ 2539fps / 46.0 @ 2751fps
* Recommended for gas-operated semi-automatic match rifles.

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** Never take load data, second hand
 
Who made it doesn't matter as you load for the bullet weight. Not the maker.
9x19p's Speer data is the same as that on Hodgdon's site with slight velocity difference. 2,520fps for 42.0. 2,731fps for the max load. Out of a 1 in 12 24" barrel. 46.0 is a compressed load too. Not a big deal.
 
i'd also get a SECOND manual- the no 11 or earlier is vastly different in maximum powder charges from the no 13-which I have personally confirmed suffers from 'lawyerizing' at least in the case ( pardon the pun) of the 45 acp-and I know that speer makes about 3 different classes of 168- being the hot-core, the match, and the ordinary bulk-
 
sunray said:
Who made it doesn't matter as you load for the bullet weight. Not the maker.
9x19p's Speer data is the same as that on Hodgdon's site with slight velocity difference. 2,520fps for 42.0. 2,731fps for the max load. Out of a 1 in 12 24" barrel. 46.0 is a compressed load too. Not a big deal.
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Not always correct.
Some bullets have longer bearing surface, so have more resistance in the barrel.
Solid copper bullets also have this issue.

You have been asked already to stop posting these brief posts that contain misleading or partially incorrect info.
Please stop.
 
Ganderite said:
The manuals are based on THEIR rifle, not yours. Start at 41.0 and test up to 44.0 of Varget in 0.5 gr increments, to see what works. This is for commercial brass, not military. I would start with the bullet about 20 thou off the rifling.
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Great advice. The Hodgdon data says 46gr Varget as a max load for the 168gr Sierra in the .308 Win, but I couldn't go beyond 44gr in a heavy barrel M700 Rem w/o encountering pressure signs. The good news is that best accuracy in a .308 often comes at less than top MV.
 
Allbrian said:
On a whim I decided to try some Speer .308 168g target match, but i didn't realize how hard it would be to find load data on the internet. I assume it would be roughly the same as 168g SMK's, but i would like to be sure. I dont really want to buy the Speer reloading book just to try a new bullet. Could someone out there let me know the starting and max amount of Varget i should use?

Thanks,
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If you are able to supply me the following data:
- cartridge type
- bullet type
- preferred powder
- barrel length
 
sunray said:
Who made it doesn't matter as you load for the bullet weight. Not the maker.
9x19p's Speer data is the same as that on Hodgdon's site with slight velocity difference. 2,520fps for 42.0. 2,731fps for the max load. Out of a 1 in 12 24" barrel. 46.0 is a compressed load too. Not a big deal.
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Mostly not correct.

The hardness of the guilding metal makes a difference. Are the bullets solid copper/brass/bronze?

The ogive makes a difference..

When looking at the published velocities, look at the equipment used, as well as the components. Did they test outdoors or in a climate controlled indoor/underground range.
 
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