Portugese Viguero Mausers

[TimC]

hello folks, anyone own one of these? I have three, one original and two in the later conversion to 8x57, only problem is I have a bolt jammed in one, I put it in normally and it wouldn't close and won't withdraw, I have stripped the rifle and looked at the other bolts and can only assume the bolt head is twisted in the chamber any ideas?

 

[bearhunter]

You have installed the bolt head improperly and jammed it into the receiver. Very easily done on one of those rifles. Be extremely careful getting it out. Replacement parts are extremely difficult to find.

 

[TimC]

You have installed the bolt head improperly and jammed it into the receiver. Very easily done on one of those rifles. Be extremely careful getting it out. Replacement parts are extremely difficult to find.

Nope, bolt came out of another rifle, hadn't been interfered with and parts are a plenty at Numrich,

 

[bearhunter]

OK, that's been my experience with them. As for bolt parts from Numrich, they could be hard to get out of the US. You're in England??? Maybe it's easier for you.

 

[diopter]

Are you sure the bolt was cocked before inserting it into the receiver?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkUDEKmlewg

 

[mkrnel]

I have seen the same issue with a Swedish Mauser rifle that would not accept other Swede Mauser bolts and if it was forced they would bind up tight. On closer examination I found that someone had tried to remove the barrel and had warped the receiver doing so. You could barely tell by looking at it unless you really looked very closely.

 

[bearhunter]

I have seen the same issue with a Swedish Mauser rifle that would not accept other Swede Mauser bolts and if it was forced they would bind up tight. On closer examination I found that someone had tried to remove the barrel and had warped the receiver doing so. You could barely tell by looking at it unless you really looked very closely.

The Verguiero bolt is a beast unto itself. Portugal wouldn't allow anyone but the armorers to strip the bolts and for good reason. This is a common problem with these rifles.

I used to have about a dozen spare bolt heads for both the 6.5 and the 8 mm conversion. Sarco used to stock them and getting them out of the US wasn't a problem. Not anymore though. The OP says the bolt was properly assembled but it wouldn't be binding unless the bolt head was turned 180 degrees from where it is supposed to be. The bolt will go in with a bit of force to clear the ejector but will jam in the receiver when the operator tries to close it.

He may have another issue that I haven't seen but this was a very weak point with those fine rifles.

 

[mkrnel]

The Verguiero bolt is a beast unto itself. Portugal wouldn't allow anyone but the armorers to strip the bolts and for good reason. This is a common problem with these rifles.

I used to have about a dozen spare bolt heads for both the 6.5 and the 8 mm conversion. Sarco used to stock them and getting them out of the US wasn't a problem. Not anymore though. The OP says the bolt was properly assembled but it wouldn't be binding unless the bolt head was turned 180 degrees from where it is supposed to be. The bolt will go in with a bit of force to clear the ejector but will jam in the receiver when the operator tries to close it.

He may have another issue that I haven't seen but this was a very weak point with those fine rifles.

Yeah, I have had more than a couple over the years including original 6.5x58mm ones.

But all it would take is a slight bend or barely perceivable warping of the receiver rails and that will bind and lock up a bolt tight.

 

[TimC]

OK, that's been my experience with them. As for bolt parts from Numrich, they could be hard to get out of the US. You're in England??? Maybe it's easier for you.

Oddly enough as a registered dealer the just stick stuff in the post, very disconcerting

 

[TimC]

The Verguiero bolt is a beast unto itself. Portugal wouldn't allow anyone but the armorers to strip the bolts and for good reason. This is a common problem with these rifles.

I used to have about a dozen spare bolt heads for both the 6.5 and the 8 mm conversion. Sarco used to stock them and getting them out of the US wasn't a problem. Not anymore though. The OP says the bolt was properly assembled but it wouldn't be binding unless the bolt head was turned 180 degrees from where it is supposed to be. The bolt will go in with a bit of force to clear the ejector but will jam in the receiver when the operator tries to close it.

He may have another issue that I haven't seen but this was a very weak point with those fine rifles.

The bolt came straight out of another rifle, cocked and had been functioning properly, I'll see a Mannlicher specialist next weekend

 

[TimC]

I have seen the same issue with a Swedish Mauser rifle that would not accept other Swede Mauser bolts and if it was forced they would bind up tight. On closer examination I found that someone had tried to remove the barrel and had warped the receiver doing so. You could barely tell by looking at it unless you really looked very closely.

That doesn't appear to be the case, both rifles had been stored in grease until proof tested, I was amazed how much I wiped out of the barrel channels of those two and also how much sweated out of the wood on a hot day.
I will run it by a Mannlicher man at Bisley on the forthcoming weekend work permitting.