JW15A-13"... Not a raging pile of ####

Got it out today....pretty decent little shooter. CCI Mini Mags were the clear winner in this, Winchester 333 were OK, RWS Pistol Target were really good, Blazer/Wildcat were not very good.
The set up.

Minimags at 50m


 
I've got a BRNO .22 and recently picked up a JW15 with the synthetic stock.I'd say they are pretty close in accuracy although as expected,not in fit and finish but nor did I expect them to be.I put a Bushnell banner shotgun/rimfire fixed 4x with 50 yard parallax on it and that's just about right for small game,the intended use.The JW15 feeds,shoots and ejects with no issues.I bought it strictly for a utility gun,that would go bang when I pulled the trigger and if I held it straight,hit where I pointed it.Minute of grouse head was the accuracy I needed.Its not a showpiece or a competition target rifle and I got exactly what I wanted for under $300 ,scoped.All I did was paint it with matt green krylon paint becau.se I didn't like the black look.So when it comes to comparison,it's all about what the intended use is...

The only thing I'd like to find out ,is there any real difference between the short barrel and the regular length barrel,given the actions are the same?
 
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ratherbefishin said:
The only thing I'd like to find out ,is there any real difference between the short barrel and the regular length barrel,given the actions are the same?
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I'll let you know next week, got a long one coming from milarm....$180. Liked this one enough, and if the big brother shoots and functions as good, it may get a pretty Boyds stock and a Timney trigger.
The little one is fun...I'll be carrying it everywhere after deer season.
 
I have owned 2 norcs. I wasn t impressed. Yes all companies let product go out the door that they shouln t , but norcs I think are ones I stay away from....
 
'I have owned 2 norcs,I wasn't impressed'....Norinco is the name they stamp on it,I understand they can come from a variety of manufacturers,good bad and indifferent.Quality control can be acceptable ,so-so or non existent and compounding this is some models are good,others aren't.I have the Browning SA knockoff(very nicely finished)a JW 23(.22 magnum-clunky 2x4 stock but some judicious removal of wood slimming it down and refinishing paid off nicely) the NS 522(again,redid the stock),a JW15 synthetic(just spray painted)
I'm quite satisfied,the models I purchased are excellent value for the money albeit benefit from the stocks bring refinished,and they all function well.I see them filling the niche market like Cooey did.
 
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The only Chinese gun I bought that was somewhat acceptable compared to North American/Russian/Philippines made stuff was the NS 522 and it has a pretty crappy softwood stock....probably their best made rifle to date.
I don't think China make a "perfect, unflawed" gun....I'm happy if they work smoothly and shoot decently, I get pissed when I have to do something to make the rifle function properly or it won't shoot for ####.....and that does tend to happen a lot with Chinese guns.
 
I must live a charmed life. I've owned a number of Norinco rifles and shotguns, and 7 or so pistols, and never had one that didn't function. The only guns I've had to do with that didn't function out of the box were a Ruger and a Beretta. Lemons happen though.
 
Hitzy said:
The only Chinese gun I bought that was somewhat acceptable compared to North American/Russian/Philippines made stuff was the NS 522 and it has a pretty crappy softwood stock....probably their best made rifle to date.
I don't think China make a "perfect, unflawed" gun....I'm happy if they work smoothly and shoot decently, I get pissed when I have to do something to make the rifle function properly or it won't shoot for ####.....and that does tend to happen a lot with Chinese guns.
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If you can't buy in person the next best thing is a dealer like Marstar or Canada Ammo who will happily replace the lemons that don't even function.
Norinco's should be considered "project" guns to some degree and the amount of work required depends on the specimen and the buyer's individual tastes.

One thing for sure is there is no quality hard wood coming out of China attached to cheap guns.

Another thing for sure is no one is making "perfect, unflawed" all metal guns today in the sub $500 market.
 
I agree on the crappy softwood stocks,I think they must have used reject lumber from making 2x4's....even a cheap hardwood like beech would be infinitely better.I have redone a couple of them,slimmed them down and used an epoxy type sealer to harden it up followed by spraying on Krylon.course,I like messing around guns ,can't do metalwork but doing some cosmetics is very enjoyable,and since I'm not going to do this on some of my fine old antiques or collectables,the Norinco's which will never be in this category provide a fine opportunity.
 
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Can-down said:
If you can't buy in person the next best thing is a dealer like Marstar or Canada Ammo who will happily replace the lemons that don't even function.
Norinco's should be considered "project" guns to some degree and the amount of work required depends on the specimen and the buyer's individual tastes.

One thing for sure is there is no quality hard wood coming out of China attached to cheap guns.

Another thing for sure is no one is making "perfect, unflawed" all metal guns today in the sub $500 market.
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I dunno, the Russian TOZ .22 rifles are pretty decent steel and hard wood, still lacking a bit of refinement, but around $250 new.
The Zastava rimfires are nice wood and steel running around $325-$350. (Centerfires from them are another story).
Tons of cheap US made rimfires with wood/plastic stocks under $300 that work and shoot well, but again a little unrefined.
Turkish Shotguns have improved a lot, and some nice wood/syn examples can be had for under $400 but a bit unrefined.
SAM 1911's start under $400 and are pretty decent.
Undefined usually means the wood to metal fitting, stamped vs cut checkering, the actual metal work is usually pretty close to perfect.
Norks are a good option (for me anyway) when its something nobody else is making, or the price difference is too much to swallow, like these short CZ type rifles, the M14, the short 8"-12" shottys. For the most part there are other options that would be much better made, better fit/finish/function, for not much more $$.
I like this little gun though, crappy rubber stock and all lol
 
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Hitzy said:
I dunno, the Russian TOZ .22 rifles are pretty decent steel and hard wood, still lacking a bit of refinement, but around $250 new.
The Zastava rimfires are nice wood and steel running around $325-$350. (Centerfires from them are another story).
Tons of cheap US made rimfires with wood/plastic stocks under $300 that work and shoot well, but again a little unrefined.
Turkish Shotguns have improved a lot, and some nice wood/syn examples can be had for under $400 but a bit unrefined.
SAM 1911's start under $400 and are pretty decent.
Undefined usually means the wood to metal fitting, stamped vs cut checkering, the actual metal work is usually pretty close to perfect.
Norks are a good option (for me anyway) when its something nobody else is making, or the price difference is too much to swallow, like these short CZ type rifles, the M14, the short 8"-12" shottys. For the most part there are other options that would be much better made, better fit/finish/function, for not much more $$.
I like this little gun though, crappy rubber stock and all lol
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I like the rubber stock as well, much nicer then the made in Canada plastic stock on the Stevens.
I think I paid $150 for my Toz 78 when they were getting blown out..... sweet shooter!
Picked up a center fire Zastava.... bunch of issues.
Picked up a used SAM that has major factory defects.
 
Well,if anybody has both the short 13.5' barrel and the regular 22' barrelled version of the JW15,I'd be very interested in an accuracy comparison(I have the 22' version,and it's very accurate)if they are equally accurate,then the short barrel would be more convenient for backpacking and weigh slightly less.
 
There is no loss of accuracy due to a shorter barrel. It affects velocity a bit, and if using irons you would have a shorter sight radius which would make shooting consistently more difficult, but if you are scoping it there should be no real difference in accuracy.
 
The shorter barrel will probably be a bit louder than the longer barrel,got to admit the JW15 with the synthetic stock is a pretty nice rifle and excellent value considering it's strictly a utility gun
 
Can anybody suggest a compact case (soft or hard) for a scoped Jw15-a? I'm using a regular length soft rifle case but it's way too big for this tiny gun.
 
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