ruger super blackhawk opinion

Can-down said:
The Hunter model has the best grip for a plow style. Long like the Dragoon style but with a round guard.
The Bisley's are all the same.

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That would be the best combination, but I'm not sure about the barrel profile. I like the more traditional look.

I'd like to get my hands around a bisley some day and see how it feels
 
colt1851 said:
One of the best single actions out there,if not the best.
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x2. Mine was blued. I think it looks better in black than in stainless. IMO. I changed the grip on mine to a rubber Pachmayer. For laughs, I used to reload with a max load of Blue Dot and it would throw a huge fireball out the barrel and the newbies loved it.
 
Mark-II said:
That would be the best combination, but I'm not sure about the barrel profile. I like the more traditional look.

I'd like to get my hands around a bisley some day and see how it feels
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What I don't understand is why Ruger doesn't make the Hunter grip frame and trigger guard an option for all their blackhawks and superblackhawks?
The Bisley gives lot's of room for your fingers but I prefer the plow look and feel specially when it's supersized for bigger hands like on the Hunter.

I don't mind the look of the rib and the scope mounts are solid and easy to use if wanted. The extra weight is nice for recoil absorption as well.
 
Boomer said:
Its not a matter of improperly holding the gun, its the size of your hand, and the length of your fingers, that account for it.
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if your pinky is under the grip, the gun will roll in your hand and not punch it. I am 6'2" and have huge hands and have only had my knuckes smashed when all three fingers were on the grip.
 
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Dsiwy said:
if your pinky is under the grip, the gun will roll in your hand and not punch it. I am 6'2" and have huge hands and have only had my knuckes smashed when all three fingers were on the grip.
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If your hands are large and thick, how can you get 3 fingers around a SA grip? But if the knuckles of your shooting hand line up with the back of the Dragoon style trigger guard, the middle one will get bumped as the gun sets back and rotates in your hand, when a hot load is fired. This is one of the reasons I switched to a .44 Vaquero, which unfortunately is no longer available, the other reason was no mechanical rear sight which might be subject to damage from recoil or rough handling. The Vaquero had some problems until it was dehorned, it would draw blood enthusiastically, and blacken my trigger finger. So I got Bumblbee Custom Machine in Prince George to soften the sharp edges and narrow the front of the trigger guard, now its almost pleasant to shoot. If I wanted to get a second similar gun, it looks like a Freedom Arms gun is the only one that can be configured with a round trigger guard, a grooved top strap rear sight, and a 45/8" barrel length. Given their price, you would have to want one very badly though, even if they are nicer guns.







 
I love my SBH 10.5 inch 44 mag, accurate and huge fun factor ( grips have being changed for Hogue ones since, more comfy )...
Shooting from 17 yards... JP.

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One word...BISLEY

Often overlooked for it's visual appeal (altho that's in the eye of the beholder) and lack of nostalgia....

The Bisley grip frame is entirely superior for shooting the large caliber single actions....and is especially effective when shooting two handed..which is more likely and appropriate shooting high pressure rds.

The plowhandle grip is designed to roll back/up and is effective when shooting low pressure big bore rds that it was born with...as well as is entirely natural to shoot one handed both shooting and cocking the hammer for the next rd...it was designed to do just that...shoot one handed..and shoot quickly one handed while the rest of you is occupied moving/running/horse riding/hands full/trying to stay alive etc.

Enter modern high pressure rds...the plow handle is impractical/painful to shoot...the roll back/up becomes way too violent and counterproductive.

In a single action serious cartridge pistol..... The Bisley grip is the only way to go IMO. Fortunately any Ruger SA can be easily converted to a Bisley grip...so you can buy whatever Ruger model suits ya...and Bisleyize it..Bam!
I've built several over the yrs....

The double action guns....some offer a good grip design..some are built strong...others are neither.
The double action feature and or the speed of reloading are mute IMO ...we're talking about shooting super high pressure rds here....either target or hunting. Anyone really think they will be double action shooting and or speed loading??
The Redhawk is built like a tank, has a good gripframe for heavy loads.

For me the SA Rugers are so customizable, strong/accurate/great looking/reliable/value for $$...and offer the ability to go Bisley.....awesome.
 
terez said:
One word...BISLEY

Often overlooked for it's visual appeal (altho that's in the eye of the beholder) and lack of nostalgia....

The Bisley grip frame is entirely superior for shooting the large caliber single actions....and is especially effective when shooting two handed..which is more likely and appropriate shooting high pressure rds.

The plowhandle grip is designed to roll back/up and is effective when shooting low pressure big bore rds that it was born with...as well as is entirely natural to shoot one handed both shooting and cocking the hammer for the next rd...it was designed to do just that...shoot one handed..and shoot quickly one handed while the rest of you is occupied moving/running/horse riding/hands full/trying to stay alive etc.

Enter modern high pressure rds...the plow handle is impractical/painful to shoot...the roll back/up becomes way too violent and counterproductive.

In a single action serious cartridge pistol..... The Bisley grip is the only way to go IMO. Fortunately any Ruger SA can be easily converted to a Bisley grip...so you can buy whatever Ruger model suits ya...and Bisleyize it..Bam!
I've built several over the yrs....

The double action guns....some offer a good grip design..some are built strong...others are neither.
The double action feature and or the speed of reloading are mute IMO ...we're talking about shooting super high pressure rds here....either target or hunting. Anyone really think they will be double action shooting and or speed loading??
The Redhawk is built like a tank, has a good gripframe for heavy loads.

For me the SA Rugers are so customizable, strong/accurate/great looking/reliable/value for $$...and offer the ability to go Bisley.....awesome.
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I disagree, the Bisley grips are certainly popular with big bore shooters, but frankly I don't get it. With heavy loads I find that when the gun rolls in my hand the felt recoil impulse is lessened, and the gun is far less fatiguing to shoot than one that drives straight back into my hand. By contrast, I find the hump back S&W grip frame hurts my hand, and numbs my arm from wrist to elbow, being nearly as bad the those silly wood inlay rubber grips that Ruger puts on the SRH, where the gun seems to be able to take a run at the palm if your hand, as the rubber compresses, then you get hit with the rigid part of the stock. I'll stick to my plow handled Rugers thanks.
 
If you read around you'll find that the odd one came from the factory with a few issues that limits the accuracy they can achieve. And in fact I ended up with just such a SBH. The cylinder had three chamber throats which were grossly under size and had to be reamed out to match the other three. It's almost like the final reaming was skipped. The other is one still to be dealt with which is the slight pinching of the bore size where the barrel fits the frame with a "crush fit" of the threading. This has produced a slight necking down of that area that will require casting of a lap and a little work. The slight pinch shows up when trying to shoot any sort of load that is less than a full on magnum load where the higher pressure seems to obturate the bullet back out to a snug fit after the pinch.

Both of these issues are not at all uncommon either. I found lots of such reports when I searched for them following my own discovery of these issues. The gunsmith that reamed out my cylinders just nodded as he's also seen and done a few for the same reason. He even had a custom reamer done with a "pilot" made from a length of casing pushed on over the correct size of reamer due to the number of times he's done this same job.

As for the barked knuckles again there's so many that found the same thing on the SBH that there's even a name for the bruises, Dragoon Bite. Lots of folks that get it go with the rather fugly looking fill in grips from Pachmayer and other outfits. I didn't want to lose the SAA sort of classic look if I could manage it. So instead I made up a new set of grip scales that have a fairly thicker and rounded "neck" at the top of the scales. This worked out far better than I could have hoped for. Not only did it prevent me getting "Draggon Bite" but it spread out the recoil from the full house loads through more of my hand and reduced the impact pain that would build up after just one cylinder to where I didn't really want to shoot it anymore. Now I can easily shoot three or four cylinders worth of full power loads before my hand tells me that I've had enough. As a bonus the gun feels more comfortable and points better for my large size hands.
 
Boomer said:
I disagree, the Bisley grips are certainly popular with big bore shooters, but frankly I don't get it. With heavy loads I find that when the gun rolls in my hand the felt recoil impulse is lessened, and the gun is far less fatiguing to shoot than one that drives straight back into my hand. By contrast, I find the hump back S&W grip frame hurts my hand, and numbs my arm from wrist to elbow, being nearly as bad the those silly wood inlay rubber grips that Ruger puts on the SRH, where the gun seems to be able to take a run at the palm if your hand, as the rubber compresses, then you get hit with the rigid part of the stock. I'll stick to my plow handled Rugers thanks.
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I agree,;) although, the 4' N frame S&W model 29, 44 Mag will always be my favorite. And, in a single action, I prefer the traditional western style grip above the Bisley. I find it rolls in your hand easier under heavy recoil and therefore feels like even less recoil yet noticeable than what I feel with the Bisley style.
 
Well....there ya have it. Plenty of opinion/experiences to help ya decide.

Again...Ruger provides plenty of choice in models, config, barrel length etc....and grips and grip frames can be swapped, customized to suit. Inarguably great value for the $$ too...
 
by the look of ones that i have seen , i like the look of the blue much better. will longevity be an issue? im not sure about .44 but i heard .357s in blue can wear out around the forcing cone. my old .357, really old, had a pretty big gap from wear
 
Personally, having fired both, I like the Bisley. To that end, I have a new Bisley 45LC/45ACP coming in next week. I'll give a range report when I take her out.
 
has anyone ever seen one of ruger's new model blackhawks in 44 special? i imagine that is quite rare north of the border
 
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