Maybe I'll Bang a Deer Today..........Finally, Photo Up
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Ha! Good ole 'Bountiful BC.
And Hoyt- good luck, and good hunting! Saw a beautiful bull in the day job which means I can't hunt it. I'd say that doesn't mean a friend can't overhear where, but where this guy lives... Too far out. This was the same guy last year, he's improved a touch I think.
Bountiful is a good 35 miles south and they don't range this far north..............probably a good thing, that many wives and kids could really get hard on the WT population..........The boys I know from there are more avid elk hunters, more meat.........
TJW, I wouldn't own a POS like that........sorry.........But I do have a sweet little Miroku 92 SRC in 44 mag...........and several 38-40s and 44-40s...........I have a gorgeous original Colt lightning in 38-40 that shoots pop can accurate @ 100 mtrs.........Possibilities are virtually endless with more than 180 firearms..........Now if the deer would just co-operate, it's becoming somewhat frustrating.
TJW, I wouldn't own a POS like that........sorry.........But I do have a sweet little Miroku 92 SRC in 44 mag...........and several 38-40s and 44-40s...........I have a gorgeous original Colt lightning in 38-40 that shoots pop can accurate @ 100 mtrs.........Possibilities are virtually endless with more than 180 firearms..........Now if the deer would just co-operate, it's becoming somewhat frustrating.
And Hoyt- good luck, and good hunting! Saw a beautiful bull in the day job which means I can't hunt it. I'd say that doesn't mean a friend can't overhear where, but where this guy lives... Too far out. This was the same guy last year, he's improved a touch I think.
I like those swept palms... we don't see those often on Ontario Canada bulls...
We'll give it the ole college try, but I am not overly hopeful... on moose at any rate... the grouse should cooperate and I swear the springers know we are heading out soon... they have been rambunctious the past couple days.
Go "give 'em hell" Hoyt........If it's warm, check the sloughs in the early mornings and afternoons, if there are any where you hunt. If the black flies are out check the ridge tops as they love the open and any breeze to get away from them........but of course you know all this.......
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so you still waiting for the deer to walk into your gunroom and pick out something ??
I have been thinking about your .350 RM (I also have one) -- it is a fine caliber and I have often wondered if a "whisper" round could be developed along the lines of something I have read several times at http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/small_charges.htm:
"....Of course one of the big advantages of the 35 calibers in rifles is the use of .358 caliber handgun bullets...the moulds are plentiful as are their shapes and designs...so we will go with bullet weights. From the 158 grain Keith shapes to the heavy weights in LBT designs to rifle bullets to 300 grains from Lyman and others. Varity is the name of the game with 35 caliber bullets.
"....Of course one of the big advantages of the 35 calibers in rifles is the use of .358 caliber handgun bullets...the moulds are plentiful as are their shapes and designs...so we will go with bullet weights. From the 158 grain Keith shapes to the heavy weights in LBT designs to rifle bullets to 300 grains from Lyman and others. Varity is the name of the game with 35 caliber bullets.
For me the all time finest heavy weight .358 cast bullet is the Lyman..#3589. It has been renumbered no doubt to something like 358009. But that doesn’t change the fact that at 290 grains with #2 lead, heat treated to 20 BNH or so...and the nose de-tempered as I described, you have a cast bullet that will kill 90%+ of all the game on earth! It has the distinction of being one of the few of the first bullets ever offered when Ideal Company started in 1895...and still in the line. It’s still a winner because it delivers.
20 grains of 2400 under this 290 grainer will break 1500 fps for near 1500 ft. lbs of muzzle punch. Yet it is an easy load with around 10 lbs of recoil. 10 grns of Unique will go around 1250 fps and near 1000 lbs of energy, again a fine training load or just for woods loafing, yet it can easily knock over a deer or black bear...it’s in the 41 magnum range of power...why not? For a full hunting load 48grns/Acc 2520/2400 fps and 3700 ft.lbs. of muzzle energy. This is a top load and it has to be worked up to carefully. The best medium load I found in both the 356 and the 358, with this bullet is 22 to 23 grains of 2400 for near 1800 fps...accuracy with 2400 is superb with many of the heavy bullets in the 356/358 cases..."
I wonder if 10 gr of Unique with the 290 grainer in a 350RM would drop below 1100fps?? And if it did ... not only would it be pretty quiet -- but I imagine the trajectory if sighted in at 50 yds would limit the range. And the annealed tip would limit ricochet .. or forget the whole annealing bs and use a gas check on a soft lead bullet ... I believe the 10gr/1250fps load he mentions above was in a .358 W
20 grains of 2400 under this 290 grainer will break 1500 fps for near 1500 ft. lbs of muzzle punch. Yet it is an easy load with around 10 lbs of recoil. 10 grns of Unique will go around 1250 fps and near 1000 lbs of energy, again a fine training load or just for woods loafing, yet it can easily knock over a deer or black bear...it’s in the 41 magnum range of power...why not? For a full hunting load 48grns/Acc 2520/2400 fps and 3700 ft.lbs. of muzzle energy. This is a top load and it has to be worked up to carefully. The best medium load I found in both the 356 and the 358, with this bullet is 22 to 23 grains of 2400 for near 1800 fps...accuracy with 2400 is superb with many of the heavy bullets in the 356/358 cases..."
I wonder if 10 gr of Unique with the 290 grainer in a 350RM would drop below 1100fps?? And if it did ... not only would it be pretty quiet -- but I imagine the trajectory if sighted in at 50 yds would limit the range. And the annealed tip would limit ricochet .. or forget the whole annealing bs and use a gas check on a soft lead bullet ... I believe the 10gr/1250fps load he mentions above was in a .358 W
they re calling for snow around the mountains over here. we are leaving in 10 days and forecast is calling for freezing temp at night. cant wait.
all the best of time and stay safe of course.
Yep, pretty much..............however I was rooting in my gun vault today and found a rifle I didn't know I owned.............It's a brand new Miroku 92 Winchester in 44-40........I have no memory of buying this rifle as a mate for my 44 RM, but apparently I did..........so good for me !!!!!!!!!! Maybe I'll sight this in tomorrow and kill a deer with it, if they even come back............
Wish I had that problem...LOL...Good luck on your yard adventure.
Ah ABL..........this isn't the first time I have found rifles or pistols that I have no recollection of acquiring or owning...........Think about it this way, if you had a Harem and had 180+ children, do you think you could remember them all ?
OK, I have stacked the deck somewhat as I put out some COB horse feed on the lawn........Corn, Oats and I have no idea what the B is for but it sure looks like good deer attractant.......Maybe tomorrow or the next day it'll start to work and I'll finally be able to bang a deer !!!!!!!!
Thanks to the thread that asked about baiting critters in BC.............absolutely forbidden in the Yukon......but apparently just fine in BC except for bears......outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is getting embarrassing.........deer in the yard every day until I decide to shoot one, then one chance I don't jump on and the deer evaporate..........most disconcerting.........
Thanks to the thread that asked about baiting critters in BC.............absolutely forbidden in the Yukon......but apparently just fine in BC except for bears......outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is getting embarrassing.........deer in the yard every day until I decide to shoot one, then one chance I don't jump on and the deer evaporate..........most disconcerting.........
Negative Gate, I looked at it, and I grew up around the grain fields, there is no barley in it but there seems to be a molasses type goo in it and some other sh!t. Looks like the deer should really find it yummy........I'll have to let you know.
Does it have dark pressed pellets? Often feed has beet pulp. Yummy I think. More likely is Cob Feed, where a cob is a funny word for horse. A small stout horse. Watching this thread reminds me of a conversation in an ice fishing shack. Not much to do until it's time. SHOOT SOMETHING ALREADY! 
