I found the link and steps to modify the Archangel stock, no video, but as it was a major change to the stock that would void the warranty I followed the vendors advise first. Cutting into a new stock and making all those changes only to find out I was wrong or following the wrong steps to fix my problem would have left me with a useless lump of plastic and $400 in the hole.
There is as much bad advice on the net as there is good so knowing which I should follow is not always easy so following the vendors first seemed prudent. Now it seems I'm at the point I don't have a choice. It seems some M305 owners get a drop-in fit while others, like me, need to go further. It also sucks that I don't always get to know why I have to do something when the instructions say otherwise. I guess I'm not a very trusting person but I'm trying.
Thanks,
Zen
Just a tip for the future - when you buy a part like the archangel stock, try not to worry about things such as "warranty". It's a stock. Nothing is going to go wrong with it that you'll need warranty for. If it doesn't fit your rifle out of the box, your choices are take it back, and get your money back (if that's an option from the person you bought it from), or modify it and make it work right. Warranty be damned (plus, it ain't a laptop or an iPhone, you don't have crap that's going to break on it easily or regularly).
400 bucks sounds like a lot for that stock though - maybe I'm wrong, but I thought they were under 300? Either way, like I say, warranty is kind of a no-go word for aftermarket parts for guns, it seems. Buy it, if it works great, if not, make it work. Plus, any good company would stand behind their product (or any good retailer). If you had to remove a little material to make it fit, as per what others have had to do, then had the stock snap in an unrelated location due to voids in the material, I can't imagine that it wouldn't be replaced for you, even if you had done the modification. If the modification was done and the stock broke where you modified it, then sure, you're probably SOL, but then again, maybe it really was you who caused it if that happened
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Warranty on what? The Norinco? Bedding wouldn't matter at all you're not doing anything to the receiver if you bed.
No, I meant the warranty on the Archangel stock. The original stock I was planning to stipple and improve for hunting use at a later date.
My guess is your problems will disappear after you fit the stock, you shouldn't need to bed it to get it to work, but I guess you never know with the shop class produced Norinco
As I now seem to be at the point I need to trust the advice I'm offered I guess I'll find out soon enough.
The groove on the feed ramp is to guide the bullet nose in.
I don't have an account anywhere to post photos, and don't plan on making one, but the groove I mean is the perpendicular one that is half moon shaped that runs through the middle of the two feed ramps. It probably assists with the round locking into the bolt so it can be extracted but I haven't looked into it.
If your mag isn't high enough in the receiver, then this exact thing could happen. File the stock
The OEM stock doesn't like the A1A mags either but that doesn't mean it's a good fit either, being a Norc. But we'll see how things go with the Archangel stock before I move onto the OEM one. Regardless I can see how lowering the contact points would raise the lip of the mag and by default the bullet contact point. I just hope it doesn't become lose and sloppy. (At least I have JB Weld around somewhere if needed.)
Thansk again,
Zen
Yes, you should definitely start to try to trust the advice offered, especially from someone like 45ACPKING. He's been around the block more times than the school bus, and he knows his stuff. I've been learning what I can, had TacticalTeacher over to my place a little while ago and took one of his clinics, and have learned a lot, but I'm hardly an expert. But yes, trust those who have experience.
You can make a free account at photobucket or one of a million other places. It's an invaluable tool to have in order to post photos online in this forum. The forum doesn't host photos, so if you ever plan on selling something, or ever need technical help again, it would be a very wise move to get an account set up, for free, so you can link photos.
The groove you are talking about, I have no idea what you mean. There is no groove in between the two feed ramps - there's a "hump" that's kind of sharp (an inverted groove maybe?), but I don't know what you're concern is here?
The AIA mags should work just fine in your gun. The stock fit actually shouldn't have a big impact on this, after thinking about it, as the mag is held only by the receiver parts. I guess the mag well on the receiver holds with friction a little, but the AIA mags should work just fine. I was wrong here when I talked about the fit of the receiver in the stock affecting this - your magazine latch is what determines how high the mag is held.
I will say that one of my AIA mags didn't always work right, but that was because the curved parts at the top were too far apart from each other. Bending them in just a few thou was all that I needed to get them to work right (they were popping rounds free when they shouldn't have been).
Read up on the tilt test - it's very important to do, for your own safety.
As for the blanks, yes, you're right, with respect to the oprod popping out, you definitely need recoil to see if it's working. But for feeding, you should have no problem figuring out the feed problem with blanks.
