Aluminum rifle cleaning rods - really all that bad?

ww w.longrangehunting.com/articles/rifle-crown-1.php

Interesting read. There have been several tests that have disproved the crown has to be immaculate anyway. Common sense and not being ham fisted is the key regardless of what you use.
 
Aluminum is soft. Aluminum oxide on the other hand forms quickly on any bare aluminum surface and it is harder than hell. Aluminum oxide is commonly used as an abrasive in grinding wheels and belts.
 
I guess that's true, but we'd be talking about an aluminum oxide layer a few atoms thick, with a microscopically small particle size. I'm still doubtful, though do recognize that this could be the important aspect of the argument.
 
oh yes it can- remember, most of the "heavier" weapons have USER- REPLACEABLE barrels- ie 250 rounds and you change barrels- even as far back as ww2 and nam- when it's your own personal equipment, you take care of it -wear and tear doesn't enter into it when you talk about militaries- basically, use gun til gun f/us up then give to weapons tech- get new gun- probably never see original gun again or completely refurbished
 
Rolhammer said:
OK, now that's interesting. Now, assuming proper use of boreguides & setting pullthroughs aside as they're extraneous to the discussion, have you yourself seen actual barrel/crown damage that you can say is clearly attributable to aluminum rod use, guntech?
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I have seen damage to the last 3 inches of hundreds of barrels possibly due to many different things but I don't know about the history of those barrels. I have seen rod caused damage forward of the chamber as well.... because of flexing the rod while a hand goes over a high comb while pushing the rod through.

I don't think anyone has done a test using a multiple piece aluminum rod over time compared to using one piece quality rod... I know the aluminum will flex more. I know the aluminum will hold grit more. I know those most concerned about retaining the finest accuracy (Centerfire Benchrest) do use one piece rods and bore guides...

If you want to conclude that this 'aluminum rod' controversy has no merit and is only an unproven theory that's fine with me.
 
Dogleg said:
Aluminum is soft. Aluminum oxide on the other hand forms quickly on any bare aluminum surface and it is harder than hell. Aluminum oxide is commonly used as an abrasive in grinding wheels and belts.
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Exactly, aluminum oxide is harder than barrel steel, and when the rod flexes, it will rub aluminum oxide against the bore.
 
Ok now that the cleaning rod-crown damage thing has been fully discussed, could we get back to T-Star MANNING A TYPEWRITER written in bold script. My question is this: do the office equipment techs re-ink the ribbons or do you get new ones? ��
 
currently I have no idea- that was the 70's,and the ribbons just reversed themselves until you punched a hole in it remember that was the era of phew phew, and for some reason the fn was always issued, but no bolts- very strange - we had a mimeograph as well and used to get high on the fumes
 
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