Hunting with a 45 Long Colt
- Thread starter Stefan
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Are there really no .45 colt loads that are hot from the factory? Even with liability warnings?
That a cowboy marlin? Beautiful. NOt a big 45 colt guy but lemme know if you ever want to part with it.
Nice to see a few guys know something about loading a 45 Colt.
100 yard deer gun, loaded properly, no problem. No cowboy action loads...
That a cowboy marlin? Beautiful. NOt a big 45 colt guy but lemme know if you ever want to part with it.
There are a bunch of Factory offerings for the 45 Colt. All you gotta do is look.
I find it funny that the original loads for the 45 Colt were meant to stop a horse from a handgun, and now all the sudden it is useless being used in a rifle to stop a deer.
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- Southern Vancouver Island
Gracias amigo. No, I never tried the factory loads due to the price. Just shot cast handloads.
(Cheap fook.)
Lee Enfield
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- Republic of Alberta
The reason it is suggested to limit pressures to a max of 80% of the. 44 magnum load is the fact that the wall thickness of 45 Colt chamber is approx 80% of the wall thickness of the same gun chambered in 44mag.
That info was originally from Linebough's articles in the late 80s and early 90s. One of the articles was on his website as recently as 5 years ago.
http://www.customsixguns.com/writings/dissolving_the_myth.htm
Just as an aside, there were destructive tests done about 10-15 years ago which demonstrated that the M.1892 action is the (conventional) lever action able to handle the most pressure...even better than the Marlin 336 series...which rather surprised a lot of people.
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Northman999
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- Southern Yukon
Yes, I am familiar with the 1892 action being stronger than the 1894 or the 336's. You a re right that it is not common knowledge, however.
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I'll tell you one fact about using a Winchester Model 94 in 44 magnum.
One can more readily utilize heavier bullets (300 gr cast) with more powder room. Because the rifle length action can handle a longer loaded cartridge then that would fit in most revolvers and a Model 92 type rifle.
This is lost on the cowboy action shooters, but it's a nicer option for the big game hunter.
just info
One can more readily utilize heavier bullets (300 gr cast) with more powder room. Because the rifle length action can handle a longer loaded cartridge then that would fit in most revolvers and a Model 92 type rifle.
This is lost on the cowboy action shooters, but it's a nicer option for the big game hunter.
just info
mudgunner49
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Oh, I disagree. What makes the .44 Magnum OK at that range with a 240 @ 1600 or so, but a .45 LC with a 255 at the same speed or greater (both easily achievable with 16-20" rifles) is incapable? I've dumped pigs at 90+ yards with my Ruger Bisley running a 270 gr SWC over enough Universal to generate 1000 FPS and a deer is no tougher and quite a bit bigger.
No offense, but I think you're smoking rope...
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- Steel Town and The Peg
Have I missed something? I didn't know that deer today are twice as tough as they were 50 to 100 years ago!
BigUglyMan
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- New Scotland
Clearly you've missed the last 15 years of gun rags.
100 yards -yes ,the ballistic curve past 125 is horrible. its not that the 45 LC cant be hot loaded its that the brass thickness is not there. you are passsing the safety point.Insipient case head separation is not a joke with a bolt action -its down right scary with a lever.
mudgunner49
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
.45 Colt brass is just as strong as 44 Magnum, what is at issue is the variable dimensions of the chambers out there as well as throat diameters which allow too much case stretch. With proper support the Colt can be loaded just as efficiently as the .44...
