THE DYING OFF .....of a hunting group

I appreciate the PM's from people, but the purpose of this post was not really a recruiting tool. - Although I am glad to hear there are lots of like minded people out there who would want to get something going.

I have often wondered about grabbing some land up north beside or with access to Crown.....setting up a basic club/camp and see if anyone would want to get into it.
Sounds like we could field a team if we needed to!
 
Wow! I had no idea people hunt like that. Totally unheard of in these parts.

It stems from having a lot of people in southern ON and not a lot of public land. So they travel north a few hundred KM and pool resources together into a cabin or camp of sorts that they own. Its very common in central ontario.

My family owns such a camp. We have guys (friends and acquaintances) attend our moose and deer hunts. Usually 10-12 for either. With a group you can also get in to "team tactics" for said animals. "Pushing bush" for deer is amongst the favourite, and most successful, tactics.

Its absolutely a fantastic way to go about hunting. Obviously not for everyone, but for me its perfect. It builds camaraderie and strengthens friendship.
 
Interesting thread. It also points out very clearly how hunting has evolved over the years.
I have stated on here before how I grew up during the meat hunting days of rural Canadians in the great depression of the 1930s, have been very active in hunting and outdoor life, so I have seen it all and very familiar with the various phases of hunting, hunting partners and hunting groups, or parties.
As I have often stated on here, the years following WW2, until about 1960, are often referred to as the glory years of hunting. It seemed that every one was hunting and shooting in organized competitions in every town and city in the country. Everyone was buying guns.
In BC the majority of the population lived in the south coastal area, but wanted to get up into the parsley settled interior to hunt, especially into the Cariboo country. One road went from Vancouver east through the luscious lower Fraser valley, then north via the very scenic, but also very dangerous, twisting old Fraser canyon highway to the junction of the highway east, at Cache Creek, BC, about 220 miles from Vancouver. From here north ran a very narrow, twisting gravel "highway" to Prince George, about 280 miles further north. Most of the hunters ended up about 60 to 150 miles north of Cache Creek, where they took off on some back road, on either side of the N-S road, but more often to the west, often going until they ran out of road (trail) where groups of hunters would set up for a week or so of hunting.
This was the real age of group hunting in this country. Camps were sometimes only two men, but more often from four to six would set up in tents and have a whale of a good time. The groups had an appointed cook, but if anyone complained about the cooking, that person became the next appointed cook! This was the basis for many jokes, such as the fellow still half asleep in the morning stating, "These are the soggiest pancakes I ever ate," then he quickly realized what he had said and came right back with, "But that's just the way I like them!"
To my mind, hunting has never been more enjoyable than these groups of friends cooking over campfires and thoroughly enjoying themselves.
Because all the hunters had to funnel through Cache Creek, the BC Game Dept. set up a permanent check station after hunting got underway and operated it 24/7 until hunting season ended on Dec. 15, with every vehicle of hunters compelled to check in on their return south.
Without question, the great fellowship and enjoyment of the hunts started to fall off, with the advent of campers on trucks or trailers to live in while they hunted.
 
I must say that it is sad hearing that people's groups are whittling down however, I am also envious of the experience and commadery that you have had the pleasure of enjoying. I myself would love to start hunting, however no one in my family hunts, nor do my friends. It also seems nobody has time these days, the people that would be interested that I know have kids, wife and a job or the ones that already hunt have their own groups/partners and not looking to expand. It would be nice to meet a few people to start somewhere, as long as you click I guess. I'd love to go turkey hunting, but haven't got a clue where to begin. One day.
 
I must say that it is sad hearing that people's groups are whittling down however, I am also envious of the experience and commadery that you have had the pleasure of enjoying. I myself would love to start hunting, however no one in my family hunts, nor do my friends. It also seems nobody has time these days, the people that would be interested that I know have kids, wife and a job or the ones that already hunt have their own groups/partners and not looking to expand. It would be nice to meet a few people to start somewhere, as long as you click I guess. I'd love to go turkey hunting, but haven't got a clue where to begin. One day.

I sad to read this comment.

I guess all I can say is if you want to hunt , just do it. Look into the regulations, there are places you can go, public land to hunt Turkey, deer, waterfowl etc. Some have nominal fees some are completely free. It's always nice too have someone to hunt with but you can do many hunts on your own. Granted the big game like moose and deer are always nice to have a group to share the load, increase success rates etc. but don't be afraid to join in.

Hunters are a funny lot we complain about the so few new hunters but many of us want to protect our heritage.
 
as a youngster in SK I hunted with my Father and Uncles. Then I moved to MB and hunted with a co-worker for a number of years. When my sons became old enough we hunted together for many many years. One son lost interest, but two sons and I still hunt together every year and on some occasions a couple of buddies join us. We live in an area where a hunting camp isn't required, less than a mile and the hunt begins, so we do miss out on the fun of a camp, but do enjoy the luxury of home.
 
I've been at it for 48 years now, through 3 camps, and have transistioned from being the youngest in a camp averaging 10-12 to now being the oldest in a camp of 8.
The toughest part has been saying "so long" to those that have passed on over the years. All three camps observed a minute of silence at dinner on the eve of opening followed by a toast to those that have departed for the good hunting grounds above. Nice to mentor the young guys ... and pass along some of the stories about those we've lost. Fortunately, it's not really hard to find new guys who want to participate, and only just a little harder to find good ones. The "interview" process around a couple of weekends of fishing & duck hunting helps to winnow out the less desirable.
 
This is the tale of most "traditional" "old stock" pastimes. Ask anyone who is in any of the public service organizations, scouting can't find volunteers, legions are closing, bars that were staples in communities are dying.
 
It stems from having a lot of people in southern ON and not a lot of public land. So they travel north a few hundred KM and pool resources together into a cabin or camp of sorts that they own. Its very common in central ontario.

My family owns such a camp. We have guys (friends and acquaintances) attend our moose and deer hunts. Usually 10-12 for either. With a group you can also get in to "team tactics" for said animals. "Pushing bush" for deer is amongst the favourite, and most successful, tactics.

Its absolutely a fantastic way to go about hunting. Obviously not for everyone, but for me its perfect. It builds camaraderie and strengthens friendship.

Thanks for the explanation. Makes so much sense now.

It isn't totally uncommon around here to have 3-5 people head north for a moose hunt, or bison hunt. It is only practical, after all. Also, I think people from the Vancouver area tend to team up a bit to share travel costs. Here in the South-Central Interior, nothing really necessitates big groups. I most often see singles or groups of 2 or 3. I've got a couple of buddies that I hunt with once in a while, and my wife and daughters just started hunting. That's about all the company I want while I am out in the bush. I understand the "social" aspect of these groups, but the peace and quiet of being alone, or with one or two people who also like silence, is far more satisfying to me.

So many different ways to hunt...
 
Thanks for the explanation. Makes so much sense now.

It isn't totally uncommon around here to have 3-5 people head north for a moose hunt, or bison hunt. It is only practical, after all. Also, I think people from the Vancouver area tend to team up a bit to share travel costs. Here in the South-Central Interior, nothing really necessitates big groups. I most often see singles or groups of 2 or 3. I've got a couple of buddies that I hunt with once in a while, and my wife and daughters just started hunting. That's about all the company I want while I am out in the bush. I understand the "social" aspect of these groups, but the peace and quiet of being alone, or with one or two people who also like silence, is far more satisfying to me.

So many different ways to hunt...
2 - 5 would be the right number for me as well. Same goes for motorcycle rides. To many and everything is a vote or hassle to organize. I also find most people don't like silence even in a car. Sure, if you have something to say or share then by all means but just talking to talk bugs the hell out of me. The silence lets you think, plan, or even enjoy just where you are right now.

Just my .02 cents.
 
Chemmy,
Never to late to start hunting, hunt to your own physical limitations. I have mentored friends 50 years plus.
One of the best parts at this stage is hunting with my son.

I will go myself if I must, however I believe I would serve the animal better justice when field dressing it if there was a more seasoned vet there....lol. I don't believe in wasting a life for a trophy. I hope to teach my 4 yr old how to hunt later.
 
2 - 5 would be the right number for me as well. Same goes for motorcycle rides. To many and everything is a vote or hassle to organize. I also find most people don't like silence even in a car. Sure, if you have something to say or share then by all means but just talking to talk bugs the hell out of me. The silence lets you think, plan, or even enjoy just where you are right now.

Just my .02 cents.

Interesting thinking Zen...

Might have been the rather enlightened Irish Poet WB Yeats who once said...

Speak, if you can improve upon the silence
 
Watch some youtube vids but more importantly print out some illustrated instructions (put them in plastic). My partner and I had to learn ourselves and we still laugh about how long it took us to field dress our first few deers. Very important things to have: Sharp quality knife under 5"s. Buttout tool (Wal-Mart, CT) the best $15 you will ever spend. Surgical gloves and water to wash off. Box of clean wipes when you run out of water. Hatchet or small game saw to cut through the pelvis. If your dressing it on the ground you will want rope to tie the back legs spread apart to trees to make everything easier.

I will go myself if I must, however I believe I would serve the animal better justice when field dressing it if there was a more seasoned vet there....lol. I don't believe in wasting a life for a trophy. I hope to teach my 4 yr old how to hunt later.
 
I am in the opposite boat as the OP.

Family never hunted growing up, and now that I am in my late 20's I have tried to start. Last year was terrible, I only knew one guy with a hunting licence and we couldn't find time to go at all (plus he kinda drives me crazy...) I went once myself, and didn't even see a deer let alone shoot one.

This year, I have convinced three of my friends (1 gun owner, two not) to get their hunting licences and I think we are planning a 5-day trip at the start of November. One has his CORE training tomorrow, the other two have it next week. Hopefully, this year will be more successful than last year, and we can start our own yearly hunting camp... Even with that, having more friends who hunt would be nice, as my time off work/school rarely coincides with my friends, so its hard to do anything without having it planned out weeks or months in advance.
 
I think the big groups that set up camps and hunt are mostly a base of operations with various fathers, sons, daughters, cousins, and close friends keeping it running for a number of weeks with various smaller groups going out for day hunts. I've seen such camps up north with some people getting up there days or weeks earlier to set camp up and others coming when they can and pooling resources, equipment, and camp duties. At different times, there could be entirely different people occupying the camp as others have already left or new people are arriving shortly. In B.C., there are various group hunt limited entry licenses that can be shared amongst a small group too, but I think it's a sign of the times where in some neighbourhoods it can be hard to find one single hunting partner let alone a large group of family and friends to occupy a camp.

Still, I understand the OP perfectly in lamenting the passing of an age and seeing people aged out of an incredible pastime, tradition, and memories. Most of us have smaller groups meeting a similar demise .... The passing of good friends and old age preventing people from participating further. How I deal with it is to just appreciate the good times that I can still remember and maybe I'll one day return to something simpler like upland game hunting or what have you.
 
I have the opposite problem, I'm looking to get into hunting and don't know anyone. My brother hunts a bit but is overseas for a while, and I have one friend who is kind of sort of vaguely interested.
 
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