Hunt camp question,,, sharing costs? and meat???

Share costs with all in camp - share meat with all those with a licence to hunt and can contribute to the pot - the non licenced should not have to share in the butchering costs if they are not getting a share of the meat. If group members want to kick some meat to the non licenced that is their prerogative - I was in a very similar position for an archery moose hunt one year - I was a licenced moose hunter but not an archery hunter at the time - I did not have bow on this trip and tagged along to see what it was all about - I paid my way and did not expect any share of the meat. My 2 cents...
 
Seems bizarre to me that somebody would state that they are going to share costs but NOT share the meat. Last I checked tags cost money and if somebody didn't get their hunting permits sorted out and still wants to come you could request that they split the cost of all of the groups tags equally. Personally, I think it is a pretty small price to pay to get somebody interested in our sport so I wouldn't be overly concerned the price of tags for a first time hunter. My hunting buddy and I have never discussed costs we just split everything, sometimes he pays more sometimes I pay more but we are also friends so it hasn't really bothered us. The OPs hunting party sounds like a band of pirates who are counting every penny spent. If that is the case (which I hope it isn't) I don't imagine that this hunting party will last too long. I know many hunting parties that have fallen apart because of issues like this. I really question the business/pre-nup approach to hunting parties but than I won't take somebody who isn't a friend out hunting either...
 
I think some of the answers on here sound petty and from past experiences I have had why I never joined a hunt camp or a big game group. If you are so concerned about costs vs. share of the meat you better quit hunting because it's cheaper to buy beef!! This is why I like waterfowling. We have guys that come along that haven't scouted or don't own decoys. At hunts end we divide the birds equally, no #####ing or whining but every big game group I ever met sounds like the whiniest bunch of babies I have ever heard when it comes to splitting up a kill. Pathetic.
 
the spank said:
I think some of the answers on here sound petty and from past experiences I have had why I never joined a hunt camp or a big game group. If you are so concerned about costs vs. share of the meat you better quit hunting because it's cheaper to buy beef!! This is why I like waterfowling. We have guys that come along that haven't scouted or don't own decoys. At hunts end we divide the birds equally, no #####ing or whining but every big game group I ever met sounds like the whiniest bunch of babies I have ever heard when it comes to splitting up a kill. Pathetic.
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Boom! Nailed it! That's why I quit the group I was raised in. Guys would always fight and bicker of a couple deer or moose steaks.
 
I can't honestly understand why somebody would submit themselves to petty confrontations over a few pounds of meat. It isn't like this is the "Walking Dead"... I truly feel sorry for guys that are in a hunting party like that, I wouldn't even bother coming out if somebody accused me having a few "extra" pounds of meat - I got better ways to spend my days off.
 
kodiakjack said:
I'd split the cost amongst those that go. I'd split the meat amongst everyone, rookie and no-go included.

You're starting from scratch here. You wanna build a group that supports and values each other for years to come. Sacrificing a few roasts is an inexpensive way to do that.
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That's the right attitude to have.

Being from Newfoundland we don't have deer camps, but we do have a long tradition of group moose and caribou hunts where just one or two of the group is the actual license holder. You can't buy big game tags over the counter, but instead have a progressive lottery where your chances of being drawn go up the longer you've gone without a license via a "Pool" system. Preference is given to partner/"party" applications. The more desirable MMAs have many more applicants and are thus much harder to get. A lot of guys will buddy up with another 2-4 hunting buddies and have their pools staggered so that their group is virtually guaranteed at least one moose license per year.


If travel is involved the party members split expenses and meat equally. If someone can't make it due to unforseen circumstances they'll still get their quarter of moose. Kicking in to help with gas is welcomed but not mandatory. We basically view such situations from the perspective of "...There but for the grace of God go I." Someone who makes it a habit of ducking out on the work and doesn’t contribute to expenses is shown the door.


To the OP, have a chat with the two young guys and your other buddy who can't make it. If it were me, I'd be willing to split everything equally, expenses and meat, but with a clear expectation of reciprocity next fall. The guy who didn't finish his hunter safety course and couldn't obtain tags should pull camp cook and roustabout duties to make sure he pulls his weight, but don't be a #### about it. Having pulled such duty myself, I'm thankful that I still had the opportunity to go scouting, do some stalking and pitch in once the real work began after we had a moose down.


On the flip side, we did have one guy worm his way into our group at the last minute one time. A friend of my brother, the guy showed up an hour before we left with nothing more than his tags and sleeping bag. No gun, no grub and claimed he had no money but would kick in his next payday. Against our better judgment we took him. It was the one and only moose hunting trip that I regret ever going on. The leech ate our food, drank our beer around the evening campfire, barely turned his hand around camp, never shut up and was constantly running his mouth and stirring up $hit. To make matters worse, hunting conditions were horrible that year with heavy rains preventing us from getting across the river to our MMA more often than not. Our two caribou licenses went unfilled and just one of two moose licenses were filled, by, you guessed it, the leech using a borrowed rifle and ammunition. We did the bulk of the dirty work field dressing the small bull and skinning the quarters. Not a lot to show for two weeks in the bush.


We dropped off the quarters to the local butcher to age upon our return home after a five hour drive. We didn't hear a peep from the leech for a month when he showed up with 30lbs of moose sausage. No gas or grocery money, no 24 of beer or even a bottle or two of good scotch or Irish whiskey. The sausage was inedible and I later learned by chance that the Leech had only dropped off the sausage because he hadn't liked it either. Class act!


Our group moved on and tried to forget the entire sorry experience, looking forward to better times next year. Believe it or not, but the leech had the balls to wonder when we'd be leaving for "our" annual hunting trip the very next September! Best laugh I'd had in ages!
 
Glock4ever said:
I can't honestly understand why somebody would submit themselves to petty confrontations over a few pounds of meat. It isn't like this is the "Walking Dead"... I truly feel sorry for guys that are in a hunting party like that, I wouldn't even bother coming out if somebody accused me having a few "extra" pounds of meat - I got better ways to spend my days off.
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Some people are just born #######s
 
This is only my take on the story. If you are unlicensed no tag for you. How would you expect meat. Sure you paid your share for gas, food and whatever but you travel and eat. The rest of the guys bought tags to be able to take some meat home.
 
X-man: I hear you on your story, we had a guy like that who joined us for an annual hunt. He wasn't quite as obnoxious as your "leech" but it was definitely noticed that he didn't like to help out, clean animals, do much of anything. We didn't get angry or confrontational, we just didn't ever invite him out with us again. Whenever he asked us to come out again, we just told him that the dates wouldn't work or that we weren't sure if we were going to hunt or whatever. After two years, he took the hint. We are always willing to expand the group but we take the approach that it needs to be a "natural" fit, if we have to tell you to pitch in - it just isn't going to work out...
 
Jnyiri said:
This is only my take on the story. If you are unlicensed no tag for you. How would you expect meat. Sure you paid your share for gas, food and whatever but you travel and eat. The rest of the guys bought tags to be able to take some meat home.
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No, actually they bought a tag in order to be able to legally pursue a specific species of animal. A tag is not a guarantee of meat. If you want a guarantee of meat head to the butcher shop and shell out your $$. If you want to hunt head to the nearest license issuer then go hunting and hope you are successful. To have a group of guys spend a week in camp together and one person feels he is entitled to more than another or that someone should not be entitled to any share is nothing short of assinine childish behavior. Sharing the wealth is much more respectful and shows more gentlemanly qualities than a sourpuss leaning over a box of meat and getting bent because the other guys box had one more steak or there was an extra box of meat set aside for a newbie.
 
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