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"You guys do realize that OP said small budget? Nothing SIG or HK makes fits that description. Plus, I think HK guns are seriously overpriced, but that is just me."
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Good point, Matt - that I might counter with this: a lot of new shooters start out on a shoe-string budget and that's fair. But - if you are the new shooter that knows you will be getting into the sport deeper when finances allow - it might be good to save your money and buy a higher end pistol now rather than buying something cheap junker AND a higher end gun later.
I've never bought into that - that "HK" is grossly overpriced. My HK USP Tactical is right on par with the SIG 210 for price, quality and performance. You never hear people saying SIG is overpriced....hmmmmmmm.....I think the reason for that might be that polymer guns have acquired a reputation for being cheap. Maybe folks don't realize that turning out a high quality polymer gun is as demanding a task as doing it with a metal gun? I dunno.
Price and precision/quality are usually mutually exclusive properties and the relationship between them is a matter of diminishing returns. The guy who wants to go and shoot a box of shells with his girlfriend once a month can buy a $400.00 Norc and be pleased as punch with it. The professional competitor shooting a race grade gun is forced to pay whatever it costs for a top end gun that will cost the manufacturer easily over $20K once you figure in all the tuning and custom fitting. Those guns go to their sponsored designated factory shooters and duffers like you and I will never see them at Cabelas or the dealers. If they can produce a gun that shoots 1/8" tighter at 50m, and cycles and locks up 1/100th of a second faster... they will pay what ever it costs without a second thought. Such is the value of medals, endorsements and bragging rights.
I tell new shooters to buy mid range guns - preferably used from somebody that will let you shoot them first. They hold their resale value much better than new ones or low end guns. In fact, it is my scholarly opinion that for regular gunnies like us - the used racks hold far more bang for the buck than the shiny new guns fresh out of the box! All my own best personal guns were used. Just my two bits, your mileage may vary.
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Good point, Matt - that I might counter with this: a lot of new shooters start out on a shoe-string budget and that's fair. But - if you are the new shooter that knows you will be getting into the sport deeper when finances allow - it might be good to save your money and buy a higher end pistol now rather than buying something cheap junker AND a higher end gun later.
I've never bought into that - that "HK" is grossly overpriced. My HK USP Tactical is right on par with the SIG 210 for price, quality and performance. You never hear people saying SIG is overpriced....hmmmmmmm.....I think the reason for that might be that polymer guns have acquired a reputation for being cheap. Maybe folks don't realize that turning out a high quality polymer gun is as demanding a task as doing it with a metal gun? I dunno.
Price and precision/quality are usually mutually exclusive properties and the relationship between them is a matter of diminishing returns. The guy who wants to go and shoot a box of shells with his girlfriend once a month can buy a $400.00 Norc and be pleased as punch with it. The professional competitor shooting a race grade gun is forced to pay whatever it costs for a top end gun that will cost the manufacturer easily over $20K once you figure in all the tuning and custom fitting. Those guns go to their sponsored designated factory shooters and duffers like you and I will never see them at Cabelas or the dealers. If they can produce a gun that shoots 1/8" tighter at 50m, and cycles and locks up 1/100th of a second faster... they will pay what ever it costs without a second thought. Such is the value of medals, endorsements and bragging rights.
I tell new shooters to buy mid range guns - preferably used from somebody that will let you shoot them first. They hold their resale value much better than new ones or low end guns. In fact, it is my scholarly opinion that for regular gunnies like us - the used racks hold far more bang for the buck than the shiny new guns fresh out of the box! All my own best personal guns were used. Just my two bits, your mileage may vary.
