Nothing wrong with storing it in case with some moisture packs in it,let's face it if it's your first ar15 you will have it ouait of the case playing with it every chance you get anyway. Yeah a case isn't ideal but if you don't want to buy a stack on then toss it in a case with moisture packs hell if you wanted to go a step further paint the foam with plastip.
AR15 Storage
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Why would the Stack-On safes (TBF referred to as cabinets by CT) require trigger locks?
They are designed and marketed to provide secure gun storage, and due to their low cost and availability likely make up the majority of gun storage in the country.
I'd wager there are a great many restricted firearms in Stack-on pistol and gun cabinets not wearing trigger locks.
I'd wager there are a great many restricted firearms in Stack-on pistol and gun cabinets not wearing trigger locks.
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Agreed, however when I read the description it says "cabinet" so I personally use it only for non-restricted and keep my restricteds in a "safe". If I didn't have a safe and were only using a cabinet I would use trigger locks for any restricted, but that is just my interpretation.
You are aware of the Court case in Ontario where someone had a lock on an old school locker and it was still considered a safe right?
If the govt wanted us all to meet a certain standard when locking up firearms..... Ie, what is a safe vs what isn't.... Then they would have specified that in the regs.... Plenty of states and counties to the south do this.
As I understand it the Ontario case was in Provincial Court and therefore did not establish a legal precedent.
Before I got a proper safe (marketed and sold as such) my restricteds were in a key locked metal cabinet...all were trigger locked.
It's not about whether you would be convicted of a charge of unsafe storage (I don't think you would) but rather about leaving yourself open to the charge and having to go through the hassle and expense of the process.
Remember.....when it comes to firearms the police and the Crown prosecutors are not your friends.
Before I got a proper safe (marketed and sold as such) my restricteds were in a key locked metal cabinet...all were trigger locked.
It's not about whether you would be convicted of a charge of unsafe storage (I don't think you would) but rather about leaving yourself open to the charge and having to go through the hassle and expense of the process.
Remember.....when it comes to firearms the police and the Crown prosecutors are not your friends.
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Before I had a safe, I hadva stack on metal cabinet and my restricted were trigger locked.
Do I believe in trigger lock ? Not a second!
Do I believe a stack on cabinet is safe storage ? Yup !
Do I believe Crown will try to slap on the unsafe storage bullshat if for some reasons they found non trigger locked restricted firearms in a stack on cabinet ? Oh hell yeah !!
This subject has been discussed many times, in the end, I personnaly don't consider my 8 guns stack on cabinet to be a safe, its just a green school locker and I now use it to store ammo. My firearm are in an actual "bolted to the structure, fireproof and thick-walled" safe and they live as free as Canadian Laws allow them to
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
As is usual with Canadian Firearm Laws, it's clear as mud. But the section that reads "Lock the firearms in a vault, safe or room that was built or modified specifically to store firearms safely," sounds like a Stack On safe/gun cabinet would fit the bill. It's specifically sold to "store firearms safely." That's what I take from it.
As is usual with Canadian Firearm Laws, it's clear as mud. But the section that reads "Lock the firearms in a vault, safe or room that was built or modified specifically to store firearms safely," sounds like a Stack On safe/gun cabinet would fit the bill. It's specifically sold to "store firearms safely." That's what I take from it.
I "think" that refers to fully automatic firearms not semi auto firearms.
Had me worried there for a second
It could be argued (and might well be by police and/or the Crown that a Stack On gun cabinet is neither a "vault", "safe" nor a "room"
I certainly agree that the law is very vague but prefer to do everything I reasonably can to avoid the potential for "punishment by process"
My restricteds are in a "safe" that is sold and marketed as such. When they were in a metal cabinet with a key lock they were all trigger locked as well. This is an individual choice about a grey area of the law and every gun owner will have to make their own decision.
As others have suggested ; just buy a 100 dollar Stack-On cabinet at Canadian Tire when they are on sale . When you buy a better safe , just put some shelves in the Stack-On , and use it for Ammo and shooting gear storage . Do NOT use gun cases for long term storage.....
