TT 33 First Thoughts

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So I finally got to take my 1946 Russian made TT 33 to the range.

The build quality and finish are very dubious nothing is smooth or polished, the barrel bore looks like they applied to much pressure when drilling. It is a bit rough. Trigger is HEAVY. Magazines are poor quality and the cartridges have a tendency to go nose down when loading. OK that's the negative stuff.

It cost $169 so big deal to all the above. It is not a custom built 1911 but then it doesn't cost $3000 to $5000 either. It is compact and quit slim. Really a small gun compared with most full sized guns today. How does it shoot?

Surprisingly it shoots pretty well. Absolutely no problem hitting a man sized target in the body core at 25 meters. This is the standard they are required to meet. Had a couple of FTF until I figured out the cartridges were nose down in the mag. Load the mag give it a firm tap with your knuckles or on the bench. Cartridges come up to proper alignment and away you go. Perfect reliability after I learned this little trick.

As I said trigger is heavy but you get used to it. I was coming from a target gun with a 1.5lb trigger so I thought I was trying to lift a truck. Having said that it is no worse than most double action triggers out there. You get used to it. After the first 20 rounds I was putting most shots within 3-4" at 10 yards. Good enough.

The 7.62x 25 cartridge is snappy but not really a problem. You usually see some burning powder come out of the barrel but nothing like a Coonan. Lots of fun to shoot. Blaze away. If it breaks through it away and get a new one.

The TT 33 uses a system based on the 1911 with some modifications, for ease of production mostly. This gun shows you how sound the basic Browning design is. A very crudely made gun to the point there are machining marks on the feed path, barrel, slides etc. etc. Works exactly as it was designed to. Oh, no real safety, just a half ####. Strips mostly the same as a 1911 but with a few minor wrinkles.

Conclusion, happy to add it to my collection of Soviet WW2 era firearms. Very similar to the others, not going to win any prizes for production quality etc. but it works as it is supposed to. Not going to throw my Pardini away but I am happy with the TT 33.
 
Toks are fine pistols. They are all different and none will be the same as the other pistol. 1946 is actually post war although some may utilize ww2 slides on 1946 production dated frames. Is your slide serrations fine or milled?
For shooting tok I'd go with Chinese toks that are available right now at Marstar. I had few of them in various configurations and the most reliable were post ww2 soviet and Chinese type 54 or copy of them from /norinco. Polish ones are good as well however they are copy of soviet ww2 guns so fp is not protected by hammer that has a notch, so fp's may brake frequently.
I would stay away from steel cased ammo but it may be impossible to do so with what's available on the market. If its nork I'd not worry about it.
 
I do like them overall, I've shot others tt33s and they were fun little guns, hit what I aimed at

I like the round itself as well and luckily the gun field strips easy

Unfortunately when I ended up buying one for myself the thing must have been a custom one for stormtroopers. I'm lucky to get a 12 inch group from a rest at 10 yards

Someday maybe I'll pick up a polish one and hope I get a good one... ammo is cheaper than my 1911
 
Unfortunately when I ended up buying one for myself the thing must have been a custom one for stormtroopers. I'm lucky to get a 12 inch group from a rest at 10 yards

Mine isn't quite that bad but oi vey, it is not a shooter.

With my 1911 I can put together fantastic groups...switch it with the TT33 and you'd think I never held a handgun in my life.
 
I have 3, wartime and late post war Russian, and a Pole. The best built one as far as fit n finish is the post war Russian, quite a nice looking gun, well polished blue. The Pole is pretty nice as well, but it's an early version and more of a matte finish. The war time is roughish, and looser, but shoots quite well.
I think the best deal are the post war Russian for the $170 or so, get one made as late as possible and it will be close to a new gun.
 
Toks are fine pistols. They are all different and none will be the same as the other pistol. 1946 is actually post war although some may utilize ww2 slides on 1946 production dated frames. Is your slide serrations fine or milled?
For shooting tok I'd go with Chinese toks that are available right now at Marstar. I had few of them in various configurations and the most reliable were post ww2 soviet and Chinese type 54 or copy of them from /norinco. Polish ones are good as well however they are copy of soviet ww2 guns so fp is not protected by hammer that has a notch, so fp's may brake frequently.
I would stay away from steel cased ammo but it may be impossible to do so with what's available on the market. If its nork I'd not worry about it.

Mine has got the milled slide. From the quality I would say it was manufactured before the post war improvement in manufacture quality. Hey I knew what I was buying and wanted one of the WW2 style. If I was to get another one then I would start looking at the quality more. Simple reality is I have a Pardini for precision shooting and the Tok will never be in the same class but it fills out my Soviet Collection. At least the ones we are allowed in Canada. Now if I could just find a Russiain Nagant revolver.
 
I miss mine something horrible :(
She was my first handgun and I shot the unholy shot out of her.
I sold it and rgret it to the day.

Depending on how the elcetion goes today I may pick up another just for good times.
Sadly there may not be any point after tonight. Fingers crossed!
 
I have two Polish TT33. Best quality of all TT guns but you pay extra. if you would want to tinker with the gun a little it becomes really nice shooter. Whats the easiest to do is bending the trigger spring a little straighter to make it less horrid and prevents a double tap when you don't want it. Of course polishing of the sear where it contacts the hammer without changing the angle. Recommended for experienced only. Secondly cutting off a third of a coil on the mag release spring makes it better to drop the mags..
Another upgradeif you can find it is a 09mm kit from zastava i believe. May need a minor mod but they work well
 
Lever Arms in Vancouver. I think they have plenty left.


Lever Arms scored me are really nice post war TT33 with all matching numbers in what looks like unfired condition! It's really quite nice and has a great trigger out of the box. I haven't shot it and don't plan to shoot it. It's just too nice and new looking. I know some would disagree with me on that one but I also have a nice refurb one from Weimajack here on CGN with a good trigger and clean bluing. I plan to use that as my fun shooter along with a Zastava M57. The Zastava is a much "tighter" gun all together and has a stiffer action and trigger. I'll find out how well they shoot this Thursday. I can't wait.
 
Lever Arms scored me are really nice post war TT33 with all matching numbers in what looks like unfired condition! It's really quite nice and has a great trigger out of the box. I haven't shot it and don't plan to shoot it. It's just too nice and new looking. I know some would disagree with me on that one but I also have a nice refurb one from Weimajack here on CGN with a good trigger and clean bluing. I plan to use that as my fun shooter along with a Zastava M57. The Zastava is a much "tighter" gun all together and has a stiffer action and trigger. I'll find out how well they shoot this Thursday. I can't wait.

What ammo are you using and find to be good? I need to buy some but don't need an entire crate of some unknown military surplus but a partial one.
 
They are so much fun to shoot and so cheap it's almost negligent not to own one. Even if it gets confiscated who gives a crap take it out five times and it has paid for itself in cheap entertainment
 
I have three TT33, and a Zastava M70A, this last is the same design but slightly longer and shoot 9mm, almost the same recoil, my Toks are now safe queen since I have the M70A, great platform !
 
What ammo are you using and find to be good? I need to buy some but don't need an entire crate of some unknown military surplus but a partial one.

Your best bet is to buy the norinco non-corrosive from Canadaammo if you don't want a whole crate.

I bought a crate with my Zastava m57 from TradeEx so it was as cheap as I could get it.
 
Well I got out to the range yesterday...

I thought 280 rounds would be enough. I WAS WRONG!! LOL!

I had so much fun with my Russian TT-33 and my Zastava M57 I couldnt be happier! It took a bit of getting used to the triggers on both. The Russian built ones I have both have much lighter trigger pulls than the M57. I was instantly able to shoot the Russian one on target within 2 inches at 10 yards which for me was good. The M57 needed some sight adjustments and I was able to get it on target but with slightly larger groups. Its nice that you can adjust the sights on the M57 because there really isnt much adjustments on the Russian TT-33s. Luckily, the TT-33 that I have seemed to be adjusted at refurb as the front sight is leaning to the left a little. Its permanently affixed to the slide so it looks like the adjustment was simply to bend the sight. Ah, its a $160 gun that shoots corrosive ammo on point by the 100s without a single stop while maintaining decent accuracy. Im quite happy.

I loved seeing the flash and burnt powder bursting out the muzzle. On my next trip to the range I told myself that Id pack twice as much ammo. At $0.20 per round this economical hand gun hobby could get surprisingly expensive.
 
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