Hornady SST's tip pretty banged up after 1 week of carrying them around

Dogleg said:
Only the base half of a Partition is tough, the front half is easily expanded and fragmented at low velocity, and as often as not blows right off at high impact velocities. That's not a bad thing, its what it is supposed to do and why it works as well as it does. Half varmint bullet and half jagged solid just in case the varmint bullet half comes up a little short in penetration.
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And in this sense, a bonded bullet such as the HotCor/Fusion is tougher.

Imagine that!
 
I 've used factory 150 grain SST's ( not Superformance as much less accurate in my rifle ) in 30-06 for years un-annealed just straight out of the box. Tried 8 different types of factory ammo when picking them. Never a problem until now . Right through a blacktail buck's heart and out the other side 2 years ago dropped after 1 step forward. Half inch at 100 yards. THE PROBLEM IS THEY STOPPED MAKING THEM!!! I have 5 left . Will switch to 150 grain Fusions or learn to reload when they run out.
 
A sample of one, is well, a sample of one. Means didly squat any way you look at it. A 40 grain varmint grenade Could hav dropped a bull elk at 25 yards or 800 yards, doesn't make it a reliable big game bullet.
 
Your math is simply amazing. And your very wrong about it meaning nothing. The results are what they are a dead big game animal. Hit broad side the Moose is dead and in the freezer anyway you look at it the sst performed perfect. Your statement of a 800 yard 40gr bullet doing the same makes your opinion a laughing joke
 
The burning of the tip is same in all calibers 308 up to the magnums or magnums only? Can you post a reference to this?
 
BigUglyMan said:
Have you tested the "annealed" bullets against non-"annealed" bullets in the same medium? If you haven't then your data is worthless except as a balm to your ego.
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Exactly!!

gwes2003 said:
They work very well on game animals. Seen a big bull Moose drop on the spot from aa 308 win 150gr sst out of browning BAR.
I was doubtful after reading the reviews on them until I saw what it did to that Moose. Very impressive results.
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This means absolutely nothing. On an easy broadside shot on a moose, any bullet that makes it past the onside ribs will kill.....sometimes dramatically.

Back to my original assertion. The SST is NOT a premium bullet, but a somewhat fragile, Cup and Core bullet with a polymer tip.

Dave.
 
The real answer is to get some Matrix Bonded Cores and forget about candles.



Long range, short range, they just plain work.



And, are made in Canada!




90+% weight retention in all the above.
Ted
 
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BigUglyMan said:
Have you tested the "annealed" bullets against non-"annealed" bullets in the same medium? If you haven't then your data is worthless except as a balm to your ego.
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Why would I need to do so, when Mr. Foster has already done the testing himself, on actual game? If anyone on this planet knows what a 150 grain, .277" annealed SST does to an animal (as opposed to the same bullet not annealed), it is Mr. Foster. Over the past few seasons, I have observed the same results he has. Spectacular all-round .270 projectile. End of story. "Ego" has nothing to do with it. It's about value for money.
 
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Why not? said:
The Hot-Cor is not a bonded bullet. Speer will tell you that themselves.

Ted
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I know what a HotCor is. The process basically achieves the same results as a typical bonded bullet. Either way, it makes sense that they are "tougher" than the front portion of a partition (as already discussed).
 
Eagleye said:
Exactly!!



This means absolutely nothing. On an easy broadside shot on a moose, any bullet that makes it past the onside ribs will kill.....sometimes dramatically.

Back to my original assertion. The SST is NOT a premium bullet, but a somewhat fragile, Cup and Core bullet with a polymer tip.

Dave.
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ironsighter said:
I know what a HotCor is. The process basically achieves the same results as a typical bonded bullet. Either way, it makes sense that they are "tougher" than the front portion of a partition (as already discussed).
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You posted, " a bonded bullet such as the HotCor/Fusion". They are not.

As far as "basically achieves the same results as a typical bonded bullet", section a few and see. Every one will have the cores fall away from the jacket.

Okay, I'm going caribou hunting. :)

TTYL,
Ted
 
ironsighter said:
I know what a HotCor is. The process basically achieves the same results as a typical bonded bullet. Either way, it makes sense that they are "tougher" than the front portion of a partition (as already discussed).
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Your Understanding of the "HotCor" bullet is scanty at best. Not even close to a bonded core. Jackets slip easily in these bullets when driven hard.
I think they are a "decent" C&C bullet, but no more than that.

Dave.
 
ironsighter said:
Why would I need to do so, when Mr. Foster has already done the testing himself, on actual game? If anyone on this planet knows what a 150 grain, .277" annealed SST does to an animal (as opposed to the same bullet not annealed), it is Mr. Foster. Over the past few seasons, I have observed the same results he has. Spectacular all-round .270 projectile. End of story. "Ego" has nothing to do with it. It's about value for money.
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No, it's about testing a hypothesis to show a repeatable result. You have a hypothesis and a result and no practical application to link the two. By your logic, because I wear underwear when I hunt, the underwear results in successful kills. I wear underwear every time and the animals I shoot die.

Disprove my hypothesis.
 
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