Walther PPQ M2 5" 9mm impressions

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Have been thinking about getting PPQ M2 for a while and finally got it. Here is some thoughts after two trips to the range. In a nutshell, TO ME, it's a mixed bag.

1. Appearance/Ergonomics/workmanship. It's just a ###y piece of artwork. I got the 5" version as I don't like the navy with barrel sticking out. The slide is very slim with 6 cutout ports on the front top of the slide that makes the

gun looks really cool! The grip, while looked a little weird and different from any other pistols I have, it's amazingly comfortable! and in fact, it's the most comfortable grip among all my pistols. The workmanship inside out is just

flawless classic german engineering. worth every penny!



2. Weight/Balance/Fitting. While the balance and fitting is good, the weight surprised me quite a bit, it's THE LIGHTEST pistol among all my pistols, even lighter than my mp40 and g22 with original barrel or 9mm barrel. It feels like

a paper gun to me. So I checked online for the spec(as I don't have a good scale) and found that it's even lighter than mp9 and g17. This concerns me a little on the recoil which was confirmed later by range test. details are at

below. Luckily, I read whole bunch reports online before I bought this, so I went with 9mm on this and leave the 40S&W to HK30L. It's a good call on my part. :)


3. Recoil. As mentioned, the gun is too light to my liking, and as a result, the felt recoil is very obvious, compared to other 9mm I have. the 6 ports does nothing in terms of reducing recoil. It was so bad that the first time the

bullets were flighting all over the place with the same ammo(both wolf and my own reloads). Of course, I did realize after that the mid-size grip that comes with it is a little small. Once I changed it to large, like my MP40 which the

other only gun I had to do the same, the felt recoil was reduced, but still with considerably much more grip force compared to any other my 4 9mm pistols. So, I would rather the PPQ comes with a thicker/heavier slide with all the

ports closed up just for the extra weight. This also makes me test more different powder weights for my handloads that I would like. I will keep it as is for now and see if I could adapt to it. Worst case, I might try what I saw

online that some people replaced the plastic guide rod to stainless steel which is twice the weight. then that would add another $100 to the gun which is not something I'd like to do. Just to be clear though, after all, it's a 9mm

that doesn't have that much of recoil overall, but just relatively speaking, it's not that way I would like it to be.



4. Reliability. I tested the pistol with wolf reloaded ammo 124gr FMJ and my own handload in many different weights(HS-6 from 6.2-5.7gr) that is hotter than wolf. all worked very well. No problem whatsoever.

5. Accuracy. With the extra felt recoil mentioned above, I had to get the my own load down to get relative ok accuracy which takes lots of time and I am not even there yet from HS-6 6.2gr down to 5.7gr. The wolf reload seems to be ok

and I got close to cz75 accuracy @ 25 meters. That's not to say PPQ M2 is better or worst than CZ75 because the bottleneck is still my ability, far from what the guns can do. Then I also still have to spend more time on reducing my

load.



7. The trigger. This is definitely the bright spot everyone is talking about on PPQ M2 and I can confirm that it lives up to the hype. It's a very even, smooth trigger with a by-design long pre-travel, but very short crispy reset.
It feels almost identical to the Apex trigger I installed on my MP40(and what a coincidence that I only use large size grips on MP40 and PPQ), except Apex has much shorter pre-travel and the flat-faced version I have is hard anodized

aluminum instead of ploymer(The original Apex is polymer too). so, it's excellent trigger.

8. Sight. This is another interesting thing on PPQ M2. First, the sights are white dot, but the front sight catches my attention much easier than other pistols because, as by-design, the gap between the rear sights are wider, so the

front sight is every easy to stand out. 2ndly, because the sight was drift a little left out-of-box(I know it's not me because I shot it with CZ75 side-by-side and no issue on CZ. Also at the same distance, I don't have shooting left

issue with any other pistols in any calibers out-of-box, never had to adjust any of them), when I tried to adjust the rear sight(rear only for windage, front sight has to be replaced for elevation), I realized it has, hands down, the

best design for adjustment EVER because all I need was a small flat screwdriver, NO hammer, NO punch, definitely NO expensive sight tool required. I wish all the guns have rear sight design like that to adjust windage. As shown in the

picture below, the plunger(where the arrow pointing to) has a slot which catches the screw that goes through the sight horizontally. to adjust the sight, just use fingernail to push down the plunger which will release the sight freely

to be pushed out to the left. Then use the flat screwdriver to turn the screw in/out to position the sight windage, then slide it back in to catch the slot on the plunger(with the plunger pushed down). then you are done. So easy. It's

not brand new and the same on P99, but should be interesting for whoever never had a walther.



9. loaded chamer indicator. While it's a normal feature on all the guns, the devil is in the fine details. this is the only one in my collection that has a bright red color pops out when the gun is loaded. All my others require me either looking down to the indicator window, or pay close attention to check if the indicator pops out of the slide as it's all black. So, extra point for attention to details!



The final thought, it's beautiful, well designed to the fine details and accurate gun. I just wish it's heavier. Well, then James Bond has to travel with it all over, I guess light weight is a given. Lol....
 
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Thanks for the review. It would be interesting also to see your results after you get accustomed to the gun. When I just started shooting my steel Jericho 941 in 9mm (which is a heavy gun with a good trigger, but it was my first center fire pistol) my accuracy was pretty awful. But before selling it I could shoot pretty much one ragged hole groups at 7 yards.

I've heard many good things about this pistol and from time to time I stop myself from buying it only by playing with my XDm-9, which handles, looks and shoots just great.
 
glad you like my review, but don't hold your breath on me getting better on 25 meters any time soon as I am still tighting up my group at 15 meters. :)
However, at close range, within 10 meters, it's pretty easy to shoot. it's not really about getting used to the gun, just my skill level at longer distance right now. today was my 2nd trip with PPQ. here is one @ 10 meters, 2-hand grip, rapid fire, with wolf 124gr fmj ammo which is hotter than my own HS-6 5.5gr that I like. Still, I think the result is pretty good.



the target I used is Caldwell Silhouette Dual Zone Target that I repainted with bright color so that it's easier to see at my indoor range. it's 2:1 ratio, meaning @ 10 meters, it represents a 6-feet tall target at 20 meters)

http://www.btibrands.com/product/silhouette-dual-zone-target/


Thanks for the review. It would be interesting also to see your results after you get accustomed to the gun. When I just started shooting my steel Jericho 941 in 9mm (which is a heavy gun with a good trigger, but it was my first center fire pistol) my accuracy was pretty awful. But before selling it I could shoot pretty much one ragged hole groups at 7 yards.

I've heard many good things about this pistol and from time to time I stop myself from buying it only by playing with my XDm-9, which handles, looks and shoots just great.
 
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got mine @ P&D. doesn't seem to have it in stock right now, but IRG does have it in stock on the Canadian site. US$750+GST+shipping. IRG has the extra mags on the canadian site as well. US$40 for the 15RD, $42 for the 15+2RD(with thicker base pad). I did get my mags from IRG. like the 15RD ones, the thick base pad on the 15+2 is just not for me.

Where did you buy yours?? I also don't like the barrel sticking out but can't find the 5" version thanks
 
Thanks. As time goes on, I like it more now as I am getting used to the lightweight feeling in relationship with the grip force I should apply as to control the recoil. It fits my collection very well as I want to be able to adapt to different guns. PPQ M2 is definitely one on its own category.

Thanks for posting your review. Very helpful. Been looking at these a little more closely lately. Cheers
 
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