The way I look at it the 30-06 Cooper Classic I got first was probably worth the money, compared to a Sako or Weatherby Mark V price range. The Western Classic wasn't. My Kimber Select grades by comparison, were the deal of the century. It helps when you get good deals, and like just about everything about the design.
Cooper or Kimber?
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Nothing more enjoyable than removing a part from a new $3000 rifle and taking a grinder to it.
I've got a divorced friend who says there's no use crying over spilled snatch. There's worse things than a glitch in a gun.
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Anyone have a line on a new/used Kimber Montana in 308/708?
Mount Sweetness
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I put a new scope on my Kimber today and sighted it in. Wow, I love this thing.
Buy a Kimber!
Buy a Kimber!
Not really when you're paying 3 grand for a rifle.
For that kind of money I expect accuracy and quality control out of the box.
I wouldn't bother buying another cooper rifle.
I probably won't either, but I'm not going to get mad or kill myself over it. Life's too short to get an aneurism over making a little clearance that should have been there in the first place. There's a few things about the Coopers that I don't care for by design that there's nothing I can do about.
In the end, most of my guns aren't worth what they cost. Some come closer and some are real bargains. It sort of averages out.
I have owned 14 Cooper rifles. All functioned perfectly, but one threw the odd flier, regardless of the load. Cooper rebarreled that rifle, and the dealer gave me a loaner to use for the hunting season at no charge. The other 13 rifles shot extremely well. As well the service provided by Prophet River is second to none.
Why would you need a loaner rifle if you had so many Coopers
At one time, I ran into some issues with my vision, and was told by multiple specialists, that I would never regain my sight, so I sold every firearm that I owned, which was a sizeable number.. I went for yet another opinion, and after surgery, I regained my vision . After my vision stabilized, I decided to get back into shooting, and bought my first Cooper, which was the one with the issue. Since that was my only firearm at the time, the dealer loaned me another Cooper to hunt with, until mine was returned from Cooper. Since then, I have owned 13 more Cooper rifles, as well as many other firearms.
It would also be completely valid to say:
"Hey, you sold me a broken piece of junk for $3000! It's got to go to a foreign country for warranty work, and that could take years. What are you going to do to make this right?!?"
stubblejumper doesn't need a reason to require compensation in this circumstance. Retailer has to make it right to stubblejumper, wholesaler has to make it right to retailer, manufacturer has to make it right to wholesaler.
A retailer that tries to deny their place in this chain is not one to deal with.
Prophet River is about as good as it gets, I'd trust Clay with my life.
By loaning this man a rifle the dealer displayed a superior level of professionalism and customer care, a quality very much lacking in today's market place. It would not have mattered if the man had only one rifle or a hundred, keeping the customer satisfied was foremost as displayed by the dealers actions.
When my brand new Cooper arrived it came with a knick on the boltface, looked like it was dropped on a hard surface. Made it hard to close the bolt, and put a scratch just above the breach. How did Cooper not notice this during test firing? Had to stone it out. Also the stock was touching the barrel near the end of the forend that needed to be sanded out. The magazine can be hard to seat properly, almost lost mine a few times now. And finally the ejection is very very weak. Mine is a model 52 in 7mm RM, and it can just barely eject an empty shell clear of the chamber. Good thing it shots so well that it's still my #2 favourite rifle! Good luck
You need one of each brand, then over time you can determine your favorite and sell the other.
I've handled a Kimber and the rifle didn't feel 'right' for me. It was light and didn't seem to come up well. Perhaps I'll have to handle another one someday and see if my opinion changes. Did by a Cooper 52 in 30-06 though for a great price. It was manufactured in 2011 and is a good fitting rifle for me. The workmanship is top quality - better than the Sako 85 for sure although I tend to take the Sako out more for some reason.
Personally I would shop around and find the best deal on one of the 2 brands, then start developing your own opinion.
4 months for a bolt, the "fix it" guy is over worked it seems.
