There is no logical reason to own a Ferrari either 300km per hour in a max 120K zone. Or a $5000 watch or blah blah blah. The list goes on and on. The point is if people are appropriately qualified why not. Remember to the best of my knowledge there has never been a case of someone being killed by a civilian legally owned FA firearm in Canada.
Do You Support Ownership of FA (full auto) Firearms?
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There is no logical reason to own a Ferrari either 300km per hour in a max 120K zone. Or a $5000 watch or blah blah blah. The list goes on and on. The point is if people are appropriately qualified why not. Remember to the best of my knowledge there has never been a case of someone being killed by a civilian legally owned FA firearm in Canada.
Full auto is not my particular cup of tea but I certainly support those who want one. It is completely silly that there are different levels of firearm ownership in this country. Heck, my first handgun back in the early '70's is one that I can no longer own. Not only is the law extremely flawed, we have too many firearm owners who look out for their narrow-minded special interest only.
I don't see a problem with owning a firearm capable of full auto .......... most folks would use it a few times and quickly discover that they would need to own an ammo factory to keep it properly fed.
I don't see a problem with owning a firearm capable of full auto .......... most folks would use it a few times and quickly discover that they would need to own an ammo factory to keep it properly fed.
Cocked&Locked
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- S. Ontario
This is the only adult, thinking answer.
migrant hunter
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Southern Alberta
I voted yes, a rifle is a rifle, if you understand the safe use of a centrefire rifle the mechanism is irrelevant.
I've only briefly used some smgs and fa rifles, and I imagine most people would find full auto too expensive to feed!
But hey, it'd be nice to click the selector to "pew pew pew" once in a while!
I've only briefly used some smgs and fa rifles, and I imagine most people would find full auto too expensive to feed!
But hey, it'd be nice to click the selector to "pew pew pew" once in a while!
By the same logic, just because you can handle your daily driver.... you can handle a 700hp lamborgini...
While I agree that one gun is not more dangerous than another, give most 16 year olds a lamborgini and see what happens.
We have many issues with some firearm owners leaving public areas a mess, shooting appliances, and generally giving firearm owners a bad name.... now throw unregulated FAs into the mix and you would have those people "spraying" for fun.
There was a thread here a while ago where someone was hiking and had rounds impacting very near him. some idiots were shooting sks rifles on crown land and never even looked at their backstop. Incidents like this make it painfully obvious that some people are not responsible enough to own guns.
I don't like overregulation, but in some instances it is necessary for the protection of society.
someones never pulled the trigger on a full auto before.
The question is an exercise in rhetoric.
You want a full auto? Move to the states and pay till your nose bleeds for a legal machine gun.
You're never EVER going to see it in a Canada ruled by any of the big 3 parties.
So it's utterly moot what anyone's opinion is, and just an excuse to troll and flame each other.
/grump
You want a full auto? Move to the states and pay till your nose bleeds for a legal machine gun.
You're never EVER going to see it in a Canada ruled by any of the big 3 parties.
So it's utterly moot what anyone's opinion is, and just an excuse to troll and flame each other.
/grump
I was acting as an ARSO and saw someone firing a C6 gpmg, on the SF without first locking the SF kit "free adjustment"...
needless to say I am glad the impact area was a wide open field... cause in about half a second that gun was firing way out of the arcs and at very high angle...
should an incident like that happen on a civilian range like the ones around here rounds would be falling where people live.
It doesn't take much and 15-20 rounds are fired...
I have also seen C7 mag dumps that walk up and over the berm....
almost every soldier firing auto for the first time has their rifle walk... It is quite simple, auto fire is not aimed shots (unless one has very good technique, and experience)
unaimed shots are not safe.... therefore, for the most part automatic fire would be dangerous on civilian ranges, and more so on crown land.
Unless there was some form of regulation to ensure that responsible people are the only ones authorized to own and use them.
needless to say I am glad the impact area was a wide open field... cause in about half a second that gun was firing way out of the arcs and at very high angle...
should an incident like that happen on a civilian range like the ones around here rounds would be falling where people live.
It doesn't take much and 15-20 rounds are fired...
I have also seen C7 mag dumps that walk up and over the berm....
almost every soldier firing auto for the first time has their rifle walk... It is quite simple, auto fire is not aimed shots (unless one has very good technique, and experience)
unaimed shots are not safe.... therefore, for the most part automatic fire would be dangerous on civilian ranges, and more so on crown land.
Unless there was some form of regulation to ensure that responsible people are the only ones authorized to own and use them.
So you think that anything more powerful than a honda civic should be banned then right?
If you said no, you dont even believe your argument LOL
Shawn
It's just a question for a topic we would like to see here in Canada. I am positive that all know it's a pipe dream but none the less a dream, as for the rhetoric most of the posts are just that. It does show how splintered the gun crowd is in this country.
Don't need to rain on the parade.
Yes... like i said in the other post... with technique and experience they can be.
If someone had to go through training and regulation before being allowed to use FA firearms I am cool with that...
but lets face it. there are a lot of people out there not responsible enough to own guns...
hell some of the people that do legally own guns are not responsible with them.
Having used and seen a lot of people use FAs I know that the margin of things going wrong is much higher than SA.
I didn't say "can't" I inferred that most young drivers lack the experience to drive high performance cars.
My point is, we all do stupid things when we are young... having driven a lamborgini (not even a 700 HP one) at a race school I know they can get squirrelly quick. (as a matter of fact, I know that several people - some of which were experienced drivers - went into the grass that day)
I also remember when I was 16 driving around with my friends... I am a responsible person now, however I know there were times when I was not so responsible.
I can say with some certainty, Had I bought a lambo as my first car... I would have totalled it, been thrown in jail, or be dead.
(cause you know... new drivers can always handle even the most pedestrian cars safety)
To bring this back on topic, I relate my knowledge of FA shooting, and pass on my experience that many shooters that lack experience are a safety issue.
anyone that spends enough time on the range has been "lazed" by, or seen inexperienced shooters do something unsafe on a range...
so again... FA should be legal... but only once someone has proved competency.... same as all firearms.
You really make a good case for yourself to be taken seriously when you quote a persons response, tell them they're wrong despite the very next thing they write being in essence the same thing you rebut with.
Train people, build ranges that accommodate for muzzle control gone wrong and have fun.
