Remington 700 24" or 20"

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So I have a remington 700 5r milspec in .308 with a 24" barrel. I was sort of looking for the 20" version but I couldnt pass it up.
I am contemplating having the barrel shortened to 20", mostly just for eaze of carrying in the bush and treestand.
Am I going to sacrifice accuracy if I shorten the barrel and re-crown it? Should I have it crowned the same 11° as the factory?
I will never shoot beyond 400 yards. And most will be about 50-150.
I plan on this gun being a functional hunting/tactical rig.
 
From what I've read making the barrel shorter may make it more accurate ( less barrel whip). Yo will lose about 25 fps per inch, which I think is nothing to be concerned with at 3 or 4 hundred yards . Anyway that's what I got out of my research and for that reason I've ordered a 20 CFW barrel.
 
Brianma65 said:
From what I've read making the barrel shorter may make it more accurate ( less barrel whip). Yo will lose about 25 fps per inch, which I think is nothing to be concerned with at 3 or 4 hundred yards . Anyway that's what I got out of my research and for that reason I've ordered a 20 CFW barrel.
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This is correct from my research as well.
 
I thought that. Ive read that shorter barrels are worse with heavier bullets. I shoot 165s. The rifle is very accurate, I didnt want to sacrifice any just so it looks a little better..

Can anyone point me in the direction of a stainless bottom metal so it will accept AI mags?
 
You will be just fine with a shorter barrel. I have a 20inch 5r that stays supersonic at 1K using 208/210 class tips.

For bottom metal, any of the V-bull style ones should be ok. ATRS also makes(or has made) bottom metal for both that AICS mags and the AW mags. The AW ones would let you have a little more compact package.
 
carbonrod said:
You will be just fine with a shorter barrel. I have a 20inch 5r that stays supersonic at 1K using 208/210 class tips.

For bottom metal, any of the V-bull style ones should be ok. ATRS also makes(or has made) bottom metal for both that AICS mags and the AW mags. The AW ones would let you have a little more compact package.
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What bullet are you using, and what kinda of velocity are you getting out of your 20" barrel?
What powder are you using?
Thanks in advance..
 
carbonrod said:
You will be just fine with a shorter barrel. I have a 20inch 5r that stays supersonic at 1K using 208/210 class tips.

For bottom metal, any of the V-bull style ones should be ok. ATRS also makes(or has made) bottom metal for both that AICS mags and the AW mags. The AW ones would let you have a little more compact package.
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How long is your brass lasting?
 
20". hands down. You just don't need 24" for a .308.

Look at the GA Precision Gladius... 16" barrel and guys are doing 1000 yards accurately with them no problem.
 
madashell said:
20". hands down. You just don't need 24" for a .308.

Look at the GA Precision Gladius... 16" barrel and guys are doing 1000 yards accurately with them no problem.
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And yet them silly competitive F-class shooters are using 30" barreled 308's, maybe you should show up with your 16 inch barrel to teach them a thing or two! Go figure!
 
hawk-i said:
And yet them silly competitive F-class shooters are using 30" barreled 308's, maybe you should show up with your 16 inch barrel to teach them a thing or two! Go figure!
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I didn't get the impression the OP was buying this rifle for F-class. If he were it'd be a different answer an it wouldn't be so snarky.
 
madashell said:
20". hands down. You just don't need 24" for a .308.

Look at the GA Precision Gladius... 16" barrel and guys are doing 1000 yards accurately with them no problem.
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madashell,
Do you have a link for the 1000yd. shooting with a 16" barreled GA Precision Gladius ?

I have several short barreled .308's and I would like to know what they are using for load data..
Thx
 
nrut said:
madashell,
Do you have a link for the 1000yd. shooting with a 16" barreled GA Precision Gladius ?

I have several short barreled .308's and I would like to know what they are using for load data..
Thx
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Snipers Hide forum. I haven't been there in quite awhile so no direct link but there were guys on there doing it with that rifle.

The loads I recall were nothing special, 175 gr SMK's and 155 Lapua Sceeners.

Join up if you're not on there already. I'm sure a search would pull something up. I like the "field" aspect of the long range stuff some of them are doing vs the F-class thing. (I highly respect and learn a lot from the F-class guys but I like the dirty field stuff). Some of those guys really push things too.
 
I went 24"

Why? Because it gives me more versatility and flexibility for my reloads. Trying to get a higher velocity or perhaps to keep the same velocity for a specific load will be easier to do with a 24. I have friends who struggle to work a 308 load for 1000 meters with a 18" barrel. At some point you still need to maintain a certain velocity to buck the wind drop etc...
 
madashell said:
I didn't get the impression the OP was buying this rifle for F-class. If he were it'd be a different answer an it wouldn't be so snarky.
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Its more of a response to the claim that a 16" barrel will be competitive or work as good as, or a longer barrel isnt needed, blah blah....that you so indicated! The laws of physics are the laws of physic...there is a saying I live by,"the bullshyt stops when the flag drops". Well yeah a short barrel will get you to 1000 yards but a longer barrel will get you there more accurately.

Its kinda like the movie Dumb and Dumber LOL, that little scooter got them to Aspen but was it the best choice? :)
 
madashell,
I'll have to get some 155 Scenars next spring..
I read good things about them..
thx

To the OP,
You hunt at about the same distance as I do and the rifles I use mostly for hunting have from 16" to 20" barrels..
Funny how a lot of the guys posting on this thread seem to want you to back up when you see your animal to make it a "1000 yard shot"..
Weird!
LOL
 
nrut said:
madashell,
I'll have to get some 155 Scenars next spring..
I read good things about them..
thx

To the OP,
You hunt at about the same distance as I do and the rifles I use mostly for hunting have from 16" to 20" barrels..
Funny how a lot of the guys posting on this thread seem to want you to back up when you see your animal to make it a "1000 yard shot"..
Weird!
LOL
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If you're going to be making 1000 yard shots on game animals with a 308 winchester, I would suggest you maximize your rifle to give you the best possible results and 16" barrels just don't fit into that equation. What am I missing here?
 
hawk-i said:
And yet them silly competitive F-class shooters are using 30" barreled 308's, maybe you should show up with your 16 inch barrel to teach them a thing or two! Go figure!
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what does F class have to do with what the op's needs are? Sounds like it will be a hunting rifle more than a paper puncher.
 
hawk-i said:
If you're going to be making 1000 yard shots on game animals with a 308 winchester, I would suggest you maximize your rifle to give you the best possible results and 16" barrels just don't fit into that equation. What am I missing here?
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There are several things you are missing..
1. A friend has acquired a 1/4 sec. and we are going to set up steel to 900 yards..
That's why I asked about load data for the short barreled .308 for LR..

2. From my last post above..
Read this until you understand it:
To the OP,
You hunt at about the same distance as I do and the rifles I use mostly for hunting have from 16" to 20" barrels..

3. Now go up and read the OP post and the range distance he hunts and see if you can connect the dots..

I never said anything about shooting game at 1000 yds nor did I imply it..
 
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