Stop making us jealous. Just because your hunting law are liberal doesn't mean BC liberals are liberal.
Sorry, can't resist a Yo dawg moment here.
Mare's leg a handgun for hunting purpose?
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Stop making us jealous. Just because your hunting law are liberal doesn't mean BC liberals are liberal.
Sorry, can't resist a Yo dawg moment here.
So how many in BC???
As many as you want if not hunting migratory birds
What difference does it make how many guns?
I think uncle ralph will be taking a serious look at the short barreled shotguns and rifles including the mare's legs.
Of course they aren't being used in crimes but since when have facts mattered to the liberals where their ideological core anti gun dogma is concerned?
I have carried my mare's leg in the bush for bear protection and have since bought a normal length stock for it which my brother fitted perfectly to the gun.
The 44 mag being a handgun cartridge burning fast powders develops most or all of its potential energy in a 12" barrel.
I will hunt deer with the full stocked mare's leg.
Of course they aren't being used in crimes but since when have facts mattered to the liberals where their ideological core anti gun dogma is concerned?
I have carried my mare's leg in the bush for bear protection and have since bought a normal length stock for it which my brother fitted perfectly to the gun.
The 44 mag being a handgun cartridge burning fast powders develops most or all of its potential energy in a 12" barrel.
I will hunt deer with the full stocked mare's leg.
Which is why I am asking. it's less than. Not less than or equal. The other guys may not care, but I do.
This is a borderline case.
Usually manufacturers overshoot the minimum length because the law enforcement might measure it and find it just a tad under the legal length.
Would you risk your gear and vehicle (in BC) to hunt with a "potentially legal" gun?
It is not a handgun. You can shoot a Remington 700 with one hand, but it sure isn't comfortable or practical.
It is a short, inaccurate rifle, as delivered, barrel is not less than 12" it is non restricted so cannot be a handgun.
It is a short, inaccurate rifle, as delivered, barrel is not less than 12" it is non restricted so cannot be a handgun.
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But handguns specifically are not stipulated in some provinces/territories. I could not find anything against it in the NWT regs.
I'm blown away by how many people don't seem to grasp the distinction between a rifle's status and the conditions of individual province's hunting regs. If I put 8 rounds in my 870, it is still a non restricted firearm. However, that doesn't mean I can hunt with it that way (in Ontario). Firearms classification and hunting: Two different worlds.
To the OP and other Mares Leggers from BC: Just measure your barrel as accurately as possible. Use a micrometer if you have to lol. If the regs say "less than 12" then 12.001 will do. Here's a link:
http://thegunwiki.com/Gunwiki/ProcMeasureBarrelLength
ATF Standard Method to Measure Barrel Lengths
This is ATF's standard method for measuring the length of gun barrels - it has been documented to be the case for shotguns and rifles. I haven't found anything stating that this is the standard method for handguns, but technically it should be fine.
Procedure:
1. Unload the weapon.
2. Close the action.
3. #### the action (this is important - unless cocked, the firing pin will protrude from the bolt face and may not provide the correct measurement.
4. Run a dowel rod of approximately the bore diameter, down the barrel.
5. When the rod is down as far as it will go, mark the spot where the barrel and any permanently mounted attachments end on the rod. Screwed-on attachments do not count.
6. Measure the length of the rod between the mark you just made, and the end which you ran down the barrel.
In practice, unless you're pushing really close to a minimum length limit, you could just use a cleaning rod in place of a dowel. But if you're close, you should get a rod of the same diameter as the barrel. On shotguns especially, it's possible for a slightly-angled rod to measure a longer distance than a rod of the correct diameter.
To the OP and other Mares Leggers from BC: Just measure your barrel as accurately as possible. Use a micrometer if you have to lol. If the regs say "less than 12" then 12.001 will do. Here's a link:
http://thegunwiki.com/Gunwiki/ProcMeasureBarrelLength
ATF Standard Method to Measure Barrel Lengths
This is ATF's standard method for measuring the length of gun barrels - it has been documented to be the case for shotguns and rifles. I haven't found anything stating that this is the standard method for handguns, but technically it should be fine.
Procedure:
1. Unload the weapon.
2. Close the action.
3. #### the action (this is important - unless cocked, the firing pin will protrude from the bolt face and may not provide the correct measurement.
4. Run a dowel rod of approximately the bore diameter, down the barrel.
5. When the rod is down as far as it will go, mark the spot where the barrel and any permanently mounted attachments end on the rod. Screwed-on attachments do not count.
6. Measure the length of the rod between the mark you just made, and the end which you ran down the barrel.
In practice, unless you're pushing really close to a minimum length limit, you could just use a cleaning rod in place of a dowel. But if you're close, you should get a rod of the same diameter as the barrel. On shotguns especially, it's possible for a slightly-angled rod to measure a longer distance than a rod of the correct diameter.
Maybe the BC hunting regulations need to be better defined so people don't get confused. Voice your concerns directly to them instead of just on here or facebook?
In Manitoba hunting guide book apparently you can't even rest your gun on a vehicle to line it up. I suppose that includes abandoned inoperable ones.
In Manitoba hunting guide book apparently you can't even rest your gun on a vehicle to line it up. I suppose that includes abandoned inoperable ones.
The barrel must be 12.0" at minimum.....and it is not designed to be fired with one hand.... Measure your barrel and if it is 12"or greater then happy hunting...
Not sure where all of the confusion comes from here......
Not sure where all of the confusion comes from here......
The Rossi Ranch Hand has a 12" barrel. Legal to hunt with in Bc.
They don't want you getting around the 2+1 magazine rule by exchanging guns.
I think the reason why some say perfectly fine is because I forgot that there is 3 manufacturers for mare's leg:
Henry: 12.904" (Definitely okay) If people were stopped by CO, then there's no way a conservation officer will get <12" in any shape or form.
Rossi: 12” (Borderline)
Chiappa: 12" (Borderline)
The last two is close enough that an improper measurement may meant some trouble with the law. Based on what I can tell with the in-practice examples, it's guilty until proven innocent in practice and a load of other troubles.
If not because Henry have no side loading gate, I would have picked it up in a heartbeat (and when my PAL comes) -- it's the only manufactured side-ejecting mare's leg. Can a gun smith add a sideloading gate?
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