Major help needed with load data

[tinymike66]

Hello,
I have 9mm 135gr round nose projectiles
I can not find load Data for this.
Im currently using CFE pistol powder but have access to Titegroup.
Any info would be greatly greatly apreciated.
I wanna go shooting thursday so time is a ticking lol

 

[Spawn-Inc]

Use 147gr load data for the cfe pistol and use 130gr load data if your using tight group. Both are available from hodgdons website.

Start low and work up.

 

[Suputin]

Note to self: Always make sure you have load data BEFORE you buy the components.

 

[tinymike66]

Im looking to load min charge anyway.

 

[tinymike66]

I forgot to mention they are lead.
I accidently bought them thought i got 124 gr.
Cash no return deal

 

[TACTICAL111]

I forgot to mention they are lead.
I accidently bought them thought i got 124 gr.
Cash no return deal

I would split the difference. My manual for lead loads using Titegroup: Minimum 120gr @ 3.2, Minimum 147gr @ 2.5.
If in your shoes I would load to 2.9-3.0 and go from there.

 

[tinymike66]

I think that may work
Just picked up 8lbs of titegroup

 

[Ganderite]

Are those the DRG 135s?

I load those for my 9mms (over 20 different pistols)

I loaded them as 3.1, 3.5 and 3.9 of Titegroup and tried them in all pistols. In some of them there was a huge difference in grouping. Two of my guns shoot fabulous with 3.1 and shoot big groups with anything hotter.

A few need 3.9, but most shoot best with 3.5 gr of Titegroup. If you need a place to start, use 3.5 titegroup.

 

[tinymike66]

Yes DRG, Awesome. Thank you
What COL u setting them at

 

[GreenBob]

Once again Ganderite comes to the rescue... That man is a wealth of information!

 

[just having some fun]

Length/oal = the length that will pass the plonk test ------> ( i like .005 shorter or so )allows for some dirt build up and some play in the press

Make up some dummy rounds and check

start low and work up

 

[Ganderite]

For OAL, take the barrl out of the gun and use the chamber as a gauge. Seat the bullet deep enough that when you push the round into the chamber, it will fall free with gravity.

I tried the 124s, and in 23 different pistols, only one shot the 124 better than the 135s.

 

[Biggunners]

Get rid of Titegroup, I take the opened and unopened cans. It does not meter good. Just trying to help

 

[AHiltz]

I use 3.5 with the DRG 130 lead bullet for my CZ.

 

[BCRider]

For sure chamber check with a CZ. They have shorter or more abrupt leade room for the bullet nose and often require a shorter OAL than most other guns.

Keep in mind if you haven't reloaded cast bullets before that they often have a cannelure groove to take the crimp. But for semi autos we don't want to crimp too tightly since the cases need to have enough of a lip diameter to seat on the edge in the chamber to head space correctly. So the proper crimp is just barely no crimp at all. Just remove the flare and maybe a tiny bit more. A good gauge on this is that "plonk" test. They should drop into the barrel's chamber with a free drop and a noticeable "PLONK" at the end of the drop and fall back out into your palm just as easily. Use the minimum amount of crimp that this requires and then just the tiniest bit more to allow for different case lengths and play in the press as loading progresses.

Also if you're loading with a 3 die set with the seating and crimp done at the same station watch for the crimp closing too early and causing lead to be "plowed" ahead by the lip of the cases digging in. This seems to occur when the crimp starts too early and closes the mouth up before the lip runs into the cannelure groove. It can require some VERY fussy and sensitive setting of the two functions to avoid this. Another excellent reason for a separate factory crimp die on a fourth position if you don't have such a setup already.