CFB suffield hunt

Yup, we were head to toe blaze orange and highly visible on a small crest, the guy knew we were there and shot anyways. I don't mind wearing orange at all, though I honestly do not think it increases safety at all. At Suffield, it does help patrols identify who is a hunter vs oil field or other contractor which is beneficial. Elk make people stupid, it occurs everywhere big herds can be hunted.
 
TikkaWSM said:
Yup, we were head to toe blaze orange and highly visible on a small crest, the guy knew we were there and shot anyways. I don't mind wearing orange at all, though I honestly do not think it increases safety at all. At Suffield, it does help patrols identify who is a hunter vs oil field or other contractor which is beneficial. Elk make people stupid, it occurs everywhere big herds can be hunted.
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I have a different view on orange, but that is just me.....

If a hunter wears camo in a "non suffileld" situation then how does said Hunter expect a human with eyesight a fraction of their quarry to pick them out at say, 200 yards?.....in the background of a deer or elk they are shooting at..... While wearing said camo to be invisible in the bush?

A hunter that shoots at an orange blob should be castrated so that they don't reproduce....
 
I agree Superbrad. If anyone gets accidently shot wearing camo, it would nobody's fault but their own. I am sure the shooter would feel bad, but if the person blend in with the background what is one to do?
 
guido said:
I agree Superbrad. If anyone gets accidently shot wearing camo, it would nobody's fault but their own. I am sure the shooter would feel bad, but if the person blend in with the background what is one to do?
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Yep... Camo is designed to fool critters with eyesight several times more capable than our own... Yet many other hunters expect us to see them in the background at 200 plus yards....

I hunt turkey a lot..... Have had one run across my legs when in full camo with full facemask..... Their eyesight far exceeds ours..... So how are we to expect each other to see us at 200 yards?.....
 
More people were shot in Alberta when we had to wear bright colours then have been since they got rid of the dumb idea. When we hunted on base at Wainwright nobody ever got out of there trucks,cars or urban assault vehicles to really need it anyways.
Has anybody showed up at the check station with any elk yet. My brother was drawn for it and I wonder if he had any luck.
 
Raton57 said:
More people were shot in Alberta when we had to wear bright colours then have been since they got rid of the dumb idea. When we hunted on base at Wainwright nobody ever got out of there trucks,cars or urban assault vehicles to really need it anyways.
Has anybody showed up at the check station with any elk yet. My brother was drawn for it and I wonder if he had any luck.
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Please provide a link to proof and statistics.... And thank you for the background on your "hunt"......Makes the statistics even more meaningless......
 
Superbrad said:
Yep... Camo is designed to fool critters with eyesight several times more capable than our own... Yet many other hunters expect us to see them in the background at 200 plus yards....

I hunt turkey a lot..... Have had one run across my legs when in full camo with full facemask..... Their eyesight far exceeds ours..... So how are we to expect each other to see us at 200 yards?.....
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It depends on where you hunt, on the prairie where I hunt (most of the time) orange blends in a lot better than most of the popular camo's, I always laugh when antelope hunting as you can see a camo guy miles away against the light colored grass. I generally just wear solid color sweaters (I'm cheap) and never have trouble filling my tags, A tan color sweater blends in just fine on the flats, in the mountains I generally wear a grey fleece. I still see no reason for orange from a safety perspective, it's a hunters responsibility to know their target and where their bullet will end up. The only close calls I've ever seen occurred in blaze orange country, I don't blame the orange, I blame the dummy behind the gun. I find game sees movement anyways, hold still/ use cover and even the spookiest deer and elk won't bolt.
 
TikkaWSM said:
It depends on where you hunt, on the prairie where I hunt (most of the time) orange blends in a lot better than most of the popular camo's, I always laugh when antelope hunting as you can see a camo guy miles away against the light colored grass. I generally just wear solid color sweaters (I'm cheap) and never have trouble filling my tags, A tan color sweater blends in just fine on the flats, in the mountains I generally wear a grey fleece. I still see no reason for orange from a safety perspective, it's a hunters responsibility to know their target and where their bullet will end up. The only close calls I've ever seen occurred in blaze orange country, I don't blame the orange, I blame the dummy behind the gun. I find game sees movement anyways, hold still/ use cover and even the spookiest deer and elk won't bolt.
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We can debate vision all day long bud.... But, true blaze orange (not talking the crappy and faded crossing guard vest your grandpappy had in a closet somewhere) it will always stand out.... Against tan?.... Well no contest.....

If you are moving, game is going to see you no matter the colour.... But blaze is designed to protect you against accidental fire...

My personal opinion is that outlawing blaze camo in Ontario as being sufficient and requiring solid is riidiculous as it meets both needs....
 
guido said:
I agree Superbrad. If anyone gets accidently shot wearing camo, it would nobody's fault but their own. I am sure the shooter would feel bad, but if the person blend in with the background what is one to do?
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B.S. Most people that are accidently shot are mistaken for game animals. That is not the fault of the person wearing camo, it is the fault of the idiot that didn't identify the target before pulling the trigger.
 
Raton57 said:
Read up on hunting in Alberta and when they dropped the coloured clothing . It's common knowledge for all us Albertans that it was a dumb requirement. Your from out east and it's a whole different kind of hunting there.

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...mU6NNia95II2L1Gb-mQLUw&bvm=bv.108194040,d.eWE
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It's so tough out there they tally all the points to score a deer. Out here if you said an 8 pointer, most folks would be aghast...then laugh their butt off when you showed them a 4 x buck pic.
And good luck out there on ' The Block '
If you need help processing, give Deerview Meats a call. They are on the East side of the Hat BTW, right off the #1 highway.
They are good honest folks too
 
FreedomIsn'tFree said:
Did you have any luck yet?
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Other than one herd of a few hundred head that are hanging out in the training area, we have seen almost no sign of elk , and we covered a lot of area. The first day, the hunters did let at least one bunch of elk reach the legal hunt area before opening fire, and there were over 40 head killed that day. Yesterday we headed into the South area where the herd was hanging out, and we joined several other hunters well back, waiting for the entire herd to cross into the legal hunting area before we were going to make a move on them. However a few clueless individuals raced down the road as the first elk reached the boundary road, and they opened fire, killing one elk along the road. Then chaos broke out, and many vehicles went racing towards this location, until two range patrol vehicles blocked the road and sorted things out. At that point the elk went deeper into the out of bounds area, and we left. We then came on the scene where a woman had shot an elk in the out of bounds area, and another hunter was on the phone reporting the incident. We left the area entirely, and tried another area, but saw no sign of elk at all. When we stopped in to check out, the busiest people seemed to be F&W as they apparently had to deal with several incidents yesterday. Last night we talked it over, and given that the only elk seemed to be the one herd, and we did not want to be around another circus tomorrow, we decided to head home this morning.
 
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stubblejumper said:
Other than one herd of a few hundred head that are hanging out in the training area, we have seen almost no sign of elk , and we covered a lot of area. The first day, the hunters did let at least one bunch of elk reach the legal hunt area before opening fire, and there were over 40 head killed that day. Yesterday we headed into the South area where the herd was hanging out, and we joined several other hunters well back, waiting for the entire herd to cross into the legal hunting area before we were going to make a move on them. However a few clueless individuals raced down the road as the first elk reached the boundary road, and they opened fire, killing one elk along the road. Then chaos broke out, and many vehicles went racing towards this location, until two range patrol vehicles blocked the road and sorted things out. At that point the elk went deeper into the out of bounds area, and we left. We then came on the scene where a woman had shot an elk in the out of bounds area, and another hunter was on the phone reporting the incident. We left the area entirely, and tried another area, but saw no sign of elk at all. When we stopped in to check out, the busiest people seemed to be F&W as they apparently had to deal with several incidents yesterday. Last night we talked it over, and given that the only elk seemed to be the one herd, and we did not want to be around another circus tomorrow, we decided to head home this morning.
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Sounds even worse than last year. I think we will loose hunting on the base in the future because of some of the people that are allowed out there.
 
FreedomIsn'tFree said:
Sounds even worse than last year. I think we will loose hunting on the base in the future because of some of the people that are allowed out there.
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The F&W officer had made it clear during the briefing that he wanted the hunters to let the herd get fully into the legal area before opening fire, and less than an hour later the idiots opened fire as the lead animals reached the road. You can't fix stupid.

This sounds like a great "hunt" to totally avoid....
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Which is why we packed up and left today, when we could have hunted for two more days.
 
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