Sten gun find

Firearms that were deactivated in the past ,are required to meet the deactivation standard of that time. not todays STANDARD. as long as you do not do any modifications that will make it function your good .
fill it full of auto body filler and grind off every thing that don’t look like a sten.
 
Funny,
I remember that.
About 30 years ago, they were piled in a metal garbage can.
I was about 14 years old.
Saw no fun in a mutilated old sten.
I spent alot of time in that store.
Nothing like that now.
If I only knew. LOL.:HR:


Grizzly Adams said:
the guys dad bought like "600" back in the day that were all cut up like this from the military,

Crown Surplus had a pile about the size of a cord of wood when I was a teen. 9.95 each Wicked torch work. Clean it up, flat black stove paint looks realistic.

Grizz
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william1 said:
Funny,
I remember that.
About 30 years ago, they were piled in a metal garbage can.
I was about 14 years old.
Saw no fun in a mutilated old sten.
I spent alot of time in that store.
Nothing like that now.
If I only knew. LOL.:HR:
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They also had a bunch of torched H&R M4 survival rifles about the same time and.303 Browning aircraft guns. Same story, no fun in welded steel.

Grizz
 
gaff said:
Firearms that were deactivated in the past ,are required to meet the deactivation standard of that time. not todays STANDARD. as long as you do not do any modifications that will make it function your good .
fill it full of auto body filler and grind off every thing that don’t look like a sten.
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Could you provide a reference for that assertion; it might come in handy one day for a number of museums I am familiar with. thanks
 
Juster said:
The link is earlier in the thread.
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thanks... I missed that. It is unfortunately still VERY ambiguous with the inclusion of the words "unless" and "could easily be" :

"...The new standards will not affect the status of firearms that the Registrar has already deemed to be deactivated unless there is reason to believe that the firearms have been, or could easily be, reactivated." what exactly does that mean?


I thought one of the requirements for a firearm to be considered deactivated before this was that it could not be easily reactivated.... eg you couldnt just remove the selector lever etc . So now it appears they have left room to redefine "easily" ..which means they do indeed need to meet "TODAY'S" standard
 
points said:
Can't answer that one :) Actually, at the time, having access to every sort of weapon, the thought didn't even cross my mind. However, when we started cutting up the Brens, I did entertain the thought.
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You will be tried for crimes against humanity!!!
( in Bizarro world)
 
AP said:
thanks... I missed that. It is unfortunately still VERY ambiguous with the inclusion of the words "unless" and "could easily be" :

"...The new standards will not affect the status of firearms that the Registrar has already deemed to be deactivated unless there is reason to believe that the firearms have been, or could easily be, reactivated." what exactly does that mean?


I thought one of the requirements for a firearm to be considered deactivated before this was that it could not be easily reactivated.... eg you couldnt just remove the selector lever etc . So now it appears they have left room to redefine "easily" ..which means they do indeed need to meet "TODAY'S" standard
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It means that they left a bunch of weasel words in the Law so as to be able to waffle around the issue and make things seem worse than they are.

I would be pretty comfortable with owning and displaying that particular sample as a legal dewat. It does not meet the current standards, but they DID account for that by acknowledging that the previous acts done to make a dewat were mostly reasonable and safe.

Now, whether easily means that someone had to put in a handful of new parts, vs. someone had to own a fully equipped welding and machine shop and make obvious efforts to repair or remake the firearm, well, they kinda left that open too. If you buy in to the latter, then every bar of steel and every sheet of metal, can "easily" be made into a gun or magazine. Yet we do not hear of folks being dragged into the courts over the old dewats, do we?

I know for a fact that several of the guys I was in Honduras with brought back ####-and-click AK47s, which they duly declared when entering Canada , and by what I heard eventually, their kids thought they had the coolest dads ever. Those guns were welded and drilled, in such a way as to make re-activating them a much more difficult process than simply making a new one from scratch. They were legal then and STILL ARE LEGAL, as they met the requirements of that time. They would not be legal as dewats, if done now, because they were not welded up into solid lumps.

Short version. I do not believe that the current classifications of the various parts, or of the methods of deactivation, apply to the old job done on this poor old Sten gun. Not worth wringing ones hands over, as it all ceased to be a firearm a long time ago.

Cheers
Trev
 
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