Tikka T3 Lite weak shell extractions.

[Canadiankeeper]

Picked up a used T3 from my LGS, tore it completely apart in store, handled ect ect. All seemed well so I picked it up. Was at a very good price and looked brand new. Got it home complete strip/clean of rifle including bolt. Re assemble and properly torque to factory specs, blue Loctite on applicable items. Drop some dummy 223 rounds in there (those purple ish ones) and I notice it doesn't eject well... Or at all really... So I drop in some live rounds, it can barley get them out of the rifle. Most rifles you need to hold your hand there to keep brass from flying... This you hope the brass comes out. Does any one have any experience with this ? Should I order a new extractor spring/pin it looks ok to my eyes. May take it back in for the LGS smith to look at.

Working bolt fast or slow both have same outcome of the shell hardly coming out, or will just spin a 180 in the action.


EDIT: Tikka seems to make them kick out for the perfect length of an EMPTY 223 shell. Anything with a "bullet" in it, so snap caps, live rounds, misfires, will not eject properly. Fun fact for anyone who hasn't owned a tikka.

SOLUTION: Cleaned up the claw, check for gritty while pushing it in and out, Make sure spring is strong. Once I blasted with enough solvent and wiggled it so it was smooth it now ejects rounds perfectly fine.

 

[yodave]

what brass headsptamp? not all ejector grooves are created equal.

take the bolt out of the rifle and make sure the extractor is moving free and is also grabbing securely onto the rim of the case, also clean the p$%s out of the chamber, could be more preservative in there then you think

 

[emr333]

My 270 wsm won't throw loaded bullets either. Empty ones have never been an issue. Hunted with it for 8 years hasn't been an issue.

 

[Bartledan]

Sounds like an ejector problem rather than an extractor problem.

Strip the bolt, and sit the bolt head face down in a shot glass full of acetone. Wrap some Saran Wrap around it to prevent evaporation.

After a couple of hours, pull out the bolt, and poke the ejector in and out with something plastic. Maybe that will loosen things up.

Otherwise, strip and clean the ejector assembly... I have no idea how to do that

Picked up a used T3 from my LGS, tore it completely apart in store, handled ect ect. All seemed well so I picked it up. Was at a very good price and looked brand new. Got it home complete strip/clean of rifle including bolt. Re assemble and properly torque to factory specs, blue Loctite on applicable items. Drop some dummy 223 rounds in there (those purple ish ones) and I notice it doesn't eject well... Or at all really... So I drop in some live rounds, it can barley get them out of the rifle. Most rifles you need to hold your hand there to keep brass from flying... This you hope the brass comes out. Does any one have any experience with this ? Should I order a new extractor spring/pin it looks ok to my eyes. May take it back in for the LGS smith to look at.

Working bolt fast or slow both have same outcome of the shell hardly coming out, or will just spin a 180 in the action.

 

[Canadiankeeper]

what brass headsptamp? not all ejector grooves are created equal.

take the bolt out of the rifle and make sure the extractor is moving free and is also grabbing securely onto the rim of the case, also clean the p$%s out of the chamber, could be more preservative in there then you think

Tried with various ammo, everything seems proper. I have cleaned the piss out of it lol.

Sounds like an ejector problem rather than an extractor problem.

Strip the bolt, and sit the bolt head face down in a shot glass full of acetone. Wrap some Saran Wrap around it to prevent evaporation.

After a couple of hours, pull out the bolt, and poke the ejector in and out with something plastic. Maybe that will loosen things up.

Otherwise, strip and clean the ejector assembly... I have no idea how to do that

Very good point, it does grab the rounds. Terminology is key in this world. I may drop the bolt in a glass of heavy duty cleaner, strip and re clean. Then poke the ejector a punch see if it has changed at all.

 

[Bartledan]

Tried with various ammo, everything seems proper. I have cleaned the piss out of it lol.



Very good point, it does grab the rounds. Terminology is key in this world. I may drop the bolt in a glass of heavy duty cleaner, strip and re clean. Then poke the ejector a punch see if it has changed at all.

Don't forget to re-lube afterwards. That's a trick I pulled . Cheers!

 

[Gerald]

This may not necessarily be a problem. I had a Tikka model 55 that did this same thing. It only did it with rounds that had not been fired. With fired rounds it worked without a problem. It is my belief that this is a method to facilitate emptying the chamber without having the live round flying out. I had the rifle to a smith who replaced the ejector spring and the condition was unchanged. Try ejecting a fired round and see if the condition still exists.

 

[Throttle_monkey1]

You said you tore down the bolt yourself. Any chance you reassembled the extractor or ejector incorrectly? I personally wouldn't have done that unless there was an issue.

 

[Canadiankeeper]

This may not necessarily be a problem. I had a Tikka model 55 that did this same thing. It only did it with rounds that had not been fired. With fired rounds it worked without a problem. It is my belief that this is a method to facilitate emptying the chamber without having the live round flying out. I had the rifle to a smith who replaced the ejector spring and the condition was unchanged. Try ejecting a fired round and see if the condition still exists.

You said you tore down the bolt yourself. Any chance you reassembled the extractor or ejector incorrectly? I personally wouldn't have done that unless there was an issue.

nope. I wouldn't consider myself a smith but definitely handy around guns.


For all my vast knowledge evidently I am still learning. This is my first tikka, it would seem empty fire brass has 0 issues. Tikka seems to have made them kick out just at the right timing to a 223 EMPTY casing to fit. Any thing with a bullet in it will not eject and fly out properly. So SNAP CAPS and ROUNDS WITH BULLETS will not eject properly. Worked fine with empty brass... This is what I get for thinking there is a problem before even shooting the firearm.

 

[guntech]

Why would you want an unfired round to fly out onto the ground? I would be happy if it ejected fired cases and left the unfired one in the action... it's not like you have a misfire on a charging bear... snap caps? Leave them on the ground, useless things in a modern rifle.

 

[Canadiankeeper]

Why would you want an unfired round to fly out onto the ground? I would be happy if it ejected fired cases and left the unfired one in the action... it's not like you have a misfire on a charging bear... snap caps? Leave them on the ground, useless things in a modern rifle.

Cant tell if this is sarcasm or not lol. Snap caps are great to check function of firearms without having live ammo. I like them at least !

As far as the unfired rounds not coming out, slightly disappointing. Not a feature im entirely fond of.

 

[rifleman338]

Picked up a used T3 from my LGS, tore it completely apart in store, handled ect ect. All seemed well so I picked it up. Was at a very good price and looked brand new. Got it home complete strip/clean of rifle including bolt. Re assemble and properly torque to factory specs, blue Loctite on applicable items. Drop some dummy 223 rounds in there (those purple ish ones) and I notice it doesn't eject well... Or at all really... So I drop in some live rounds, it can barley get them out of the rifle. Most rifles you need to hold your hand there to keep brass from flying... This you hope the brass comes out. Does any one have any experience with this ? Should I order a new extractor spring/pin it looks ok to my eyes. May take it back in for the LGS smith to look at.

Working bolt fast or slow both have same outcome of the shell hardly coming out, or will just spin a 180 in the action.


EDIT: SOLUTION: Tikka seems to make them kick out for the perfect length of an EMPTY 223 shell. Anything with a "bullet" in it, so snap caps, live rounds, misfires, will not eject properly. Fun fact for anyone who hasn't owned a tikka.

I had this happen with a brand new T3 in 223. I sent it back to Stoeger and they replaced the extractor, spring and plunger . No problems since, and it works perfectly now.

 

[Canadiankeeper]

I had this happen with a brand new T3 in 223. I sent it back to Stoeger and they replaced the extractor, spring and plunger . No problems since, and it works perfectly now.

odd, the LGS brand new tikka t3 super varmint did the same thing with unfired rounds. Maybe I should tell my LGS to send it back. I plan on going out on sunday, lets just hope I don't get any miss fires !

 

[conor_90]

My .338 ejects w/e