You're a tool, holy ####.
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There are many in the service today who are unable to perform their duties due to wounds both physical and mental. There are also a large number of malingerers who have latched on to the government tit with false claims of injury and PTSD. Ask anyone in the army who is willing to give you an honest answer.
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Bader in the center, not sure who's to his left (our right) but that's Willie McKnight on our left, Bader's right:
Calgarian, and the man whose name is on McKnight Boulevard. God rest his soul.
Calgarian, and the man whose name is on McKnight Boulevard. God rest his soul.
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I was refering to the deadbeats on workmans compensation. NOT members of the miilitary.
I am ex RCAF myself.
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Oh well, Dugout Doug came ashore on Luzon a few times before they got that shot right too.
Rene Gagnon? Sounds like a New England Quebecer.
I remember that text, but had forgotten it was Stanford Tuck. One gun in front of him kept shooting at him as he was making his forced landing so he was annoyed enough that he lined up on them and gave them a burst before the tail went down. "Gut schott Englander!" He'd killed some of the flak crew too IIRC. Definitely an odd sense of humour!
Germans had to rely very heavily on their flak in the second half of the war so they learned to make the rounds count. With only 20 round boxes on the flakvierling you had another reason to get it right the first time. There was probably a determined effort to teach proper deflection shooting as well. A lot of guncam footage from WWII and film of navy ships in the Pacific shooting at attacking aircraft show how low the skill level was in deflection shooting. It must have been taught, but not nearly enough. Many aces like Bishop and Buerling were distinguished by their skill at deflection shooting, usually gained from hunting from an early age.
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Wow, this one's a real head scratcher. The military has had BMI limits and policies on fitness and fatties for years, but some always get thru because of the inevitable inconsistencies in how the policies get applied. Personal discipline/restraint/pride in appearance are expected of military people. I spent a lot of time in messhalls and chowlines over 32 years, and still do when I'm doing training work for the Army, but I never thought to blame the cooks or the chow for how much of what I chose to put on my plate.
Some of us rotten old meanies actually used to put people on counselling and probation for being overweight. Its too bad that not everyone did. I think it was mostly an Army thing because some light blue ones were quite shocked when they found themselves kicking up dust on the carpet because of it, especially in the lax NDHQ environment. It always seemed to get back to just how motivated the individual was about maintaining their weight and military appearance.
I remember one pretty smart guy who we kept in a holding pattern for promotion to major until he lost "X" amount of pounds. Damned if he didn't bear down on it and shed the pork and was then promoted; and didn't he then go ahead and pack it all back on! He was a very able fellow who just couldn't control his eating;they used to joke about him not being able to use his computer because of the food spills on his keyboard. When it came time to pick someone for one of the commemorative medals I had him in the office to tell him that I thought he actually deserved it, but that I was too embarrassed to stand him in front of the General to receive it, so no medal.There was also a female officer in NDHQ who was so obese that she was ordered not to wear a uniform because of the unmilitary image that she presented. I had the job of reviewing officer PERs for consistency one year and found that she was highly rated in all categories, incl appearance. I kicked the PER back to her organization and told them that it would not be supported as it was, if only in fairness to the other people who did have the pride and personal discipline to keep themselves fit.
This fellow has a 26 year service pension in return for his service, yet he went angling for more with a pretty lame case. Good thing I wasn't sitting on that pension review board.
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That's a nice pic - EXCEPTIONALLY clear. HD before there was HD...
And Jesus, that superstructure. Looks like an office tower.
And Jesus, that superstructure. Looks like an office tower.
I bet I saw that fat gal getting fitted for special footwear at Ottawa Safety. I rolled in to get some boots and there was this obese female Capt (and I am not talking like a few extra pounds around the middle) and here is what really caught my attention she was wearing a tan beret FFS, so I take it she worked at CanSofCom. I bet her "professional" life spiraled downhill in a big way after clearing into the unit. It also never fails to impress me the numbers of non-tour folks you see at Remembrance Day how in this day and age does one get a CD and clasp and a hand full of "thanks for showing up to work on time" medals and zero tours??
That's a nice pic - EXCEPTIONALLY clear. HD before there was HD...
And Jesus, that superstructure. Looks like an office tower.
The pic was taken a couple of months after the Bismark chase. So it most likely in the USA with the Rodney undergoing a refit.
There were a couple documentaries about it a few years back, and as mentioned, it was pretty clearly friendly fire. Like I said, he never outed the guy, and since as mentioned no german ever claimed downing him, and there were no losses, it seems clear he knew quickly what had likely happened. Probably a video on youtube or the like.
No names, no pack drill, but this one was a major in a light blue suit and it was around 25 yrs ago.
There have always been "NDHQ Commandos" who like the place and manage to stay there for a long time. As much as people may not like serving in NDHQ its important to rotate people from the sharp end in and out, otherwise you get the military being run by a bunch of folks who are indistinguishable from the other Ottawa civil servant bus riders, except for the uniform. I once worked for a MGen who had spent most of his career on 2 floors of NDHQ rising from major to MGen in the process. I didn't find that I had too much in common with him and visa versa. He was so out of touch with things military that he actually thought he was punishing me by allowing me to escape to a long overseas tour. I tried to look suitably dejected while turning cartwheels on my way out.
I have no trouble with people being posted to NDHQ as long as they don't fall in love with the place, turn civvy, and fight to stay there. As long as people are ready to go wherever the system wants to send them, its OK.
I read the book back in 1973 and that's the story it gave. It's not surprising that other detailed information has come to light in the more than 40 years since. Something like the Ernie Simmons assault/shooting/death in Southwestern Ontario in the late 1960's where the facts were kept from the general public.
I'll look that documentary video up on YouTube.
Came across an interesting book.
" Ostfront 1944 ", The German defensive battles on the Russian front 1944. - Cherkassy - Ternopol - Crimes - Vitebsk - Brody - Bobruisk - Kischinev - Jassy -.
By Alex Buchner ( 940.5421 Buc )
" Ostfront 1944 ", The German defensive battles on the Russian front 1944. - Cherkassy - Ternopol - Crimes - Vitebsk - Brody - Bobruisk - Kischinev - Jassy -.
By Alex Buchner ( 940.5421 Buc )
USS Iowa in a floating dry dock at Ulithi in the Western Pacific. That dock must have been massive.
I wonder how long it took to build and to get it to Ulithi!
Why would she be in drydock, I wonder?? Torpedo hit from a Japanese submarine?
The dock would have to have been built on the West Coast of the US (no way in hell it would fit through the Panama Canal - the Iowa class battlewagons barely did, and I doubt the Aussies had the capability) and towed across the Pacific by USN tugs. I imagine it would take quite a while!!!
Then you should know the Military can be extremely hard on people. For every one person taking advantage of the system, there are probably 10 times that who are in need of it but wont come forward because of the stigma you and others are propagating. I used to think like you too until I did a 3 year stint at Brigade HQ as G1 Services and saw EVERYONES file. There were dudes who were literally killing themselves because of that stupid ####ing " I dont want to be called a faker/malingerer" or "someome else has it harder". I buried friends for that so it really REALLY gets me when folks in the Military and Civilians try to catatorize who is a vet and who isnt. Who is deserving of Dis Comp and who isnt. Egos kill more people than enemy fire and I think the fact there are still folks trying to put themselves on a higher pedestal than another Vet shows that our Military is fractured
As for being on Parade and judging peoples service by gongs on their chest, if you can judge a soldier by the hardware they wear, you must be psychic because some of the WORST soldiers I ever saw had SWASMs and Afgan stars and some of the BEST had an SSM for Germany and a CD or nothing at all. Who is more of a soldier and Vet? The Purple Trade Cpl working the pay cage in KAF for 6 months during their short 3 year contract with the CF who releases physically/mentally no worse for wear or the Combat Arms Cpl who hurts his back pulling metal coffins off planes in Trenton for 3 full years but is released medically unfit and with no medals?
As for being on Parade and judging peoples service by gongs on their chest, if you can judge a soldier by the hardware they wear, you must be psychic because some of the WORST soldiers I ever saw had SWASMs and Afgan stars and some of the BEST had an SSM for Germany and a CD or nothing at all. Who is more of a soldier and Vet? The Purple Trade Cpl working the pay cage in KAF for 6 months during their short 3 year contract with the CF who releases physically/mentally no worse for wear or the Combat Arms Cpl who hurts his back pulling metal coffins off planes in Trenton for 3 full years but is released medically unfit and with no medals?
"Control, this is B-24 Burma Bound, we have one engine out and one on fire. Requesting priority approach. Over."
"Burma Bound, this is control. Sure thing, just line up behind the B-17. Over."
Ok... Totally unrelated pictures. It just never ceases to amaze me seeing the condition of some of these aircraft that still managed to bring the boys home.
From War History Online:
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/war-torn-warbirds-haunting-images-of-b-24-liberators.html/2
http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/incredible-images-of-damaged-b-17-bombers-that-miracilously-made-it-home.html/attachment/boeing-b-17g
"Burma Bound, this is control. Sure thing, just line up behind the B-17. Over."
Ok... Totally unrelated pictures. It just never ceases to amaze me seeing the condition of some of these aircraft that still managed to bring the boys home.
From War History Online:
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/war-torn-warbirds-haunting-images-of-b-24-liberators.html/2
http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/incredible-images-of-damaged-b-17-bombers-that-miracilously-made-it-home.html/attachment/boeing-b-17g
Thanks for your insight and service. The ONLY judging I made is, and I repeat, how in this day and age can one not have a tour or two. NDHQ seems to be this weird vortex where some pers go in and never come out, or at least have an extended run there.
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