Solve my Savage curiosity.

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Okay. After all these separate threads about the triggers, about the accuracy, about the best bang for your buck, I am now curious. How curious? The cats already dead. That curious. I've been looking at acquiring/building either a 260 rem, a 25-06, or a 6.5 Creedmoor. Just because I can. Now all 3 of these calibers are offered in various models of savages, the 25 06 being offered in the Axis II. I've always believed you get what you pay for hence why I have never until now entertained the thought of buying one. Why do you like them? For bang for your buck why not a Ruger American? Why not just step right up into a Tikka? Main question. Why the Savage?

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Kid
 
Absolutely the cheapest new firearm you can buy...just got one in 7mm-08 for $330 less the $50 mail in rebate. You can buy 2 Axis for the price of the Ruger, and 4 for the price of a Tikka lol.
They are functional and accurate, lots of corners cut to make them though, and nothing very traditional in the design.
 
I look at Savage for .22 lr bolt actions .... that's about it.

Although they are getting better.
 
I would not use the axis action for a build due to lack of fixed recoil lug. The 10/110 would be OK but not my first pick either due to the extra long actions.
Much better options for a build.
 
Dont get the Axis II. Its not worth the extra money for the accutrigger. For the same price, you can buy the regular Axis and upgrade the trigger with a Rifle Basix.

I bought my Axis XP for under $300, with a $50usd mail in rebate ontop of that. All said and done, I paid like $245 for a rifle, with a scope/rings/mounts. Does it compare to a $800 tikka? Nope. Can you get something better for under $400? I doubt it.

It all depends on what you wanna do with the rifle. For the same cost as a Tikka, I can have an Axis with a boyds stock, a Vortex Diamondback or Leupold VX1, and still have money for a box or two of ammo. Thats a pretty damn good deal if you ask me - especially considering the one thing nobody complains about with the axis is accuracy. They are plenty accurate for what you pay.
 
I like Savage and have several, along with other major brands.

I would not build from an axis or tikka action. I would build from 10/110, 200 savage, Remmy 700 and might would buy a Vanguard if it fit me.

Many Savage models allow changes of bolt head and barrel without a gunsmith and their actions are tough but unattractive to some.

Never seen a bad review on a Savage Creedmoor.
 
I wouldn't recommend an Axis either. I would recommend looking at an Axis and even the cheapest model 11 or 111 side by side and you'll see why. The Axis is pretty much a disposable rifle the others are about like Lego you can change parts, barrels quite easily. I own or have owned a model 16, model 11 and a model 12 they were all very accurate and had no issues. Not the prettiest rifles around but they do what they're supposed to do dependably and they're priced right.
 
Suther said:
Dont get the Axis II. Its not worth the extra money for the accutrigger. For the same price, you can buy the regular Axis and upgrade the trigger with a Rifle Basix.

I bought my Axis XP for under $300, with a $50usd mail in rebate ontop of that. All said and done, I paid like $245 for a rifle, with a scope/rings/mounts. Does it compare to a $800 tikka? Nope. Can you get something better for under $400? I doubt it.

It all depends on what you wanna do with the rifle. For the same cost as a Tikka, I can have an Axis with a boyds stock, a Vortex Diamondback or Leupold VX1, and still have money for a box or two of ammo. Thats a pretty damn good deal if you ask me - especially considering the one thing nobody complains about with the axis is accuracy. They are plenty accurate for what you pay.
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this^^^ sic kid. I bought a new Stainless steel Axis for $250 taxes in. I bought it for crawling through the bush and not the range. I have my range rifles but hunting with those is like driving one of my Porsches off road... it could be done but you will feel sick over every scratch.
 
Why are some people scared to "hunt" with say, a Ruger? A Browning? That's what they are for!!! Hunting!!! And they work like a charm because, wait for it.....they are hunting rifles!!! Cheap ones to boot!! It's not like you are taking a custom built and fitted European double out hunting dragging it through he mud and beating it in rocks and losing $20,000 in value, although many do.

I am of the opinion that if you have a decent rifle, you like it, it looks good, and most importantly it functions as a rifle should, you use it!!! Otherwise why do you own it? It's either bragging rights or an investment if you do anything less.
 
I have owned most major brands and other than Sako I wouldn't say a single one was more accurate then my lowliest savage

You buy them for the out of the box accuracy not to impress your friends

PS Accutrigger is a bit of a misnomer, its not for accuracy its a safety feature. if you rough handle the rifle it will not fire until you work the bolt, but it allows you to set the trigger pull much lighter then industry safety standards
 
Garaldtao said:
this^^^ sic kid. I bought a new Stainless steel Axis for $250 taxes in. I bought it for crawling through the bush and not the range. I have my range rifles but hunting with those is like driving one of my Porsches off road... it could be done but you will feel sick over every scratch.
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I respectfully would argue that no production rifle under $3,000 fits this category. I like Ted's take, and I paraphrase, Refusing to hunt with a nice rifle for fear of marking it is like refusing to marry a beautiful woman because one day she'll get old. My Merkel double, new retail price well over 10k with options, has seen tougher use than an average Savage Axis from Kalahari sand in the chambers, to being frozen in -20 and pushed through black spruce chasing Wood Bison, to downpours guiding grizzly / brown bear on the North Coast. Guns are tools, they're meant to be used, and another paraphrase of importance "Life's too short to hunt with an ugly gun." It's part of the experience, a pleasing rifle of quality, and I can admire those to whom it's simply a disposable tool but struggle to subscribe to that myself. To the OP, buy the Ruger (Hawkeye) or Vanguard, make memories with it- skip to economy stuff.

We don't live forever, and we shouldn't shelter and protect material things like we do. That's dull.



 
Well said Ardent. If we can afford better toys for our hobby, we should use those toys!!! Doesn't mean we have to use a nice rifle as a pry bar or jack handle, but use them for what they were made for!
 
Savage Axxis has a place in the market, and I am glad they exist. They are a decent enough quality rifle for the new shooter / hunter that doesn't have much cash on hand and wants to get into the sport or for someone that has never hunted before and doesn't want to invest too much....

My first purchased firearm was an 870 express paid for by packing groceries at the age of 16.... the wood was crap, the metal would rust easy, but it got me in the field and I could do anything from grouse to deer to waterfowl with it, and I did because it was all I could afford.....

Now that I am older, wiser (maybe) and have more disposable income I would never buy another like it. If you already know you love the shooting sports then save for something better....
 
We don't live forever, and we shouldn't shelter and protect material things like we do. That's dull.

Very well said Ardent

and when your done with it , flog it and get another one
 
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