7.62x39 Bushmaster ACR

In case the optic the optic gets smashed. Or in case you are in a situation where you dont want the body of the scope interfering with your field of view. (although it still kinda does)

Lol, when was the last time you smashed a scope?
I run all my optics on quick detach mounts so it doesn't matter if it interferes with the flip-up sights. If my ninja rolls break the optic I'll remove it and use the irons.
There is absolutely no reason to need to use your irons and optic at the same time.


what does zero stop do?

Is this a trick question?
Limits where the elevation turret bottoms out so after dialing up for a long shot you just dial back down till it stops and you're back on your short range zero setting.
 
Lol, when was the last time you smashed a scope?
I run all my optics on quick detach mounts so it doesn't matter if it interferes with the flip-up sights. If my ninja rolls break the optic I'll remove it and use the irons.
There is absolutely no reason to need to use your irons and optic at the same time.




Is this a trick question?
Limits where the elevation turret bottoms out so after dialing up for a long shot you just dial back down till it stops and you're back on your short range zero setting.

i thought all variable scopes did that, never owned a variable scope
 
But the problem is I cant keep em all... Sell some to buy some ... I wish I didnt have to do that....

I hear you man, I have just about reached capacity myself. Have managed to not sell a single firearm in my life, and hope to keep it that way. But an XCR has been catching my eye lately...and who knows what will happen if CC releases some new koolaid.

Do you have an XCR? Why did you go for the ACR in particular?
 
Do you have an XCR? Why did you go for the ACR in particular?

I've owned both.
They are both loose, sloppy feeling rifles that are way too front heavy.
Go for the acr, at least it has some accuracy potential. Non restricted status is the only thing the xcr has going for it.
 
Lol, when was the last time you smashed a scope?
I run all my optics on quick detach mounts so it doesn't matter if it interferes with the flip-up sights. If my ninja rolls break the optic I'll remove it and use the irons.
There is absolutely no reason to need to use your irons and optic at the same time.

I disagree, but to each their own.
My rationale for backup offset irons, even when using an optic capable of 1x magnification is that:
1) Aside from optics breaking (which is rare) optics can also fog up.
2) If transitioning to a close target quickly it is slightly quicker to roll the rifle than turn down the magnification
3) Lastly but most importantly, it makes me feel totally operator-esque!!
 
1.) quality optics do not fog up.
2.) I thought we're talking DMR rifles here with more then just 1x what with all the Nightforce talk...
3.) well I guess you nailed it with that rationale so there's no denying...

Cheers D

All valid points as well. However I tend to agree with having 45° offset irons on my high magnification rifles because of this: during use, one can get snow, mud, rain, etc on the lenses. Does this happen often? Not likely, especially if you look after your gear but it is entirely possible if your actually using it.

It also depends what you are using your gear for that may necessitate whether or not 45° offsets or BUIS are of any use to you at all.

I like to build all my platforms out with the thought of what will be best for a WROL situation. For that reason any DMR should have 45° offsets in my opinion.
 
how much money do you have to spare?

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I disagree, but to each their own.
My rationale for backup offset irons, even when using an optic capable of 1x magnification is that:
1) Aside from optics breaking (which is rare) optics can also fog up.
2) If transitioning to a close target quickly it is slightly quicker to roll the rifle than turn down the magnification
3) Lastly but most importantly, it makes me feel totally operator-esque!!

Sure it's quicker to roll to your offset irons but my comment was about the comment made about the optic interfering with the BUIS.
A NR ACR is really not well suited to run and gun, especially if it's set up as a DMR. When I bought my first one it came with a custom 12 inch barrel ad it was a lot lighter on the muzzle and could have been used for 3-gun or CQB much more effectively. These long heavy barrels ruin the rifle for run and gun fun.

Your third point is the main reason most guys have BUIS on their rifle. As a civilian if you buy a quality optic you'll never need your BUIS at the range or in the bush. I keep them on a couple of my rifles but once I zero them they never get used again. I carry a spare battery and since no one is shooting back at me I have plenty of time to correct the issue if something ever did happen.
Seconds and even minutes to fix your sighting system means nothing in Canada, even if you're competing and something breaks chances are good you're just going to stop your run and go repair it and prep for the next stage.
Spend $500 or more on your dot sight or 1-4 and the chances are nearly zero you'll have issues.
I like shooting through irons but if I outfit my rifle with an optic the irons may as well be gone.
 
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Sure it's quicker to roll to your offset irons but my comment was about the comment made about the optic interfering with the BUIS.
A NR ACR is really not well suited to run and gun, expecially if it's set up as a DMR. When I bought my first one it came with a custom 12 inch barrel ad it was very a lot lighter on the muzzle and could have been used for 3-gun or CQB much more effectively. These long heavy barrels ruin the rifle for run and gun fun.

Dude...to each their own, more ACR DMR talk please! ;)

DILLIGAF, could you contact Heron Arms and see if they will give you details based on the serial number of your rifle? Be interested to know which barrel blank your rifle started with, then if you be so kind to post a range report..... :)
The Krieger blanks are priced $150 more than the Green Mountain, which I think would be well worth it for even a slight bump in accuracy.
 
Dude...to each their own, more ACR DMR talk please! ;)

DILLIGAF, could you contact Heron Arms and see if they will give you details based on the serial number of your rifle? Be interested to know which barrel blank your rifle started with, then if you be so kind to post a range report..... :)
The Krieger blanks are priced $150 more than the Green Mountain, which I think would be well worth it for even a slight bump in accuracy.

Then keep it DMR not DMR with a side of CQB.

I called Ian about my first ACR NR barrel and he emailed me the spec sheet for it. All he needed was the name of the guy who sent the rifle in for the conversion.

I like to build all my platforms out with the thought of what will be best for a WROL situation. For that reason any DMR should have 45° offsets in my opinion.

When and if we get to a situation like that I'll grab one of my AR's, I can hit easily targets out to 500 yards with them, they're lighter and parts are everywhere. WROL means classification is out the window so I'll be grabbing the best tool for the job not the one the old government allowed me to have away from the range before hell broke loose. All the rivets will magically fall out of my magazines as well when we get to that world :)
You only need one "go to" rifle in a situation like that.
 
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I like the idea of one day owning a ACR, but the lack in spare parts situation has me second guessing. The ATR Modern Varminter being problematic with cheap ammo totally buzz kills it. Leaving the XCR as an attractive option, only if I can be guaranteed when I buy one that it could shoot better that 1.5MOA with match grade ammo, or reloads....
 
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