Eotech Refund

drifter dave said:
I'm going to repeat what I said before.

I only shoot an AR at a range, with steady temp and my optic has not lost zero. I am keeping it and it's my call.

The only issue that I have is that you have to jump down the throat of anyone that dares disagree with you. People can and will keep their Eotech products.

Stop telling people what to do.
I don't care what it says in your sig line.
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If you would be so kind as to point out where Itold anyone that they had to send their sights back, I would be obliged.

Your problem is that you have an unqualified opinion contrary to all of the facts posted that you somehow feel obliged to come onto every Eotech thread and post. Hou also appear to have an inability to read and comprehend facts.

I have already posted numerous times, that I don't care if you, or anyone else hangs onto their Eotech, but don't continually tell everyone that it is all just a bunch of internet hype posted by a bunch of "operators".

Regards.

Mark
 
I have an eotech and ill be keeping it. The condition they where found to not function correctly are so extreme I would never find myself in that situation in my lifetime.
 
I actually have the RMA return email and I can't bring myself to send it back and just stare at it in the box.. the point of failure is on the extreme end. Which means it could be suitable for the purpose of which you initially purchased it in there for sending it back doesn't help you.
 
Just so we're clear right from the beginning, I don't care what you do with your sight regarding keeping it or sending it back, but regarding the errors caused due to parallax, they are as follows:

Up to 12 MOA at 0C

Up to 20 MOA at -15C

Additionally, the up to 6 MOA (12 MOA with some versions) shift caused by thermal drift can occur incrementally at any of the temperatures within the stated range, and does not suddenly occur once the temperature hits either extreme end of the range.

Regards.

Mark
 
lil_juiced_coupe said:
I have an eotech and ill be keeping it. The condition they where found to not function correctly are so extreme I would never find myself in that situation in my lifetime.
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I shoot in 0 degree weather up to 5 months a year....hardly extreme. They are getting their crap back.
 
Post the results of your zero drift.
The only FACT I care about is that my sight holds zero.
I don't have to read anything online to confirm this FACT.
If I have an issue, I will send it back.
 
MWL said:
Just so we're clear right from the beginning, I don't care what you do with your sight regarding keeping it or sending it back, but regarding the errors caused due to parallax, they are as follows:

Up to 12 MOA at 0C

Up to 20 MOA at -15C

Additionally, the up to 6 MOA (12 MOA with some versions) shift caused by thermal drift can occur incrementally at any of the temperatures within the stated range, and does not suddenly occur once the temperature hits either extreme end of the range.

Regards.

Mark
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Thanks for all your clear Posts Mark, and answering my questions !

I just got my email to send it back for refund id rather buy something without any flaws.
I have another old used painted Eotech i can keep for my shotgun but im sending my new one back.
 
drifter dave said:
Post the results of your zero drift.
The only FACT I care about is that my sight holds zero.
I don't have to read anything online to confirm this FACT.
If I have an issue, I will send it back.
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I don't have any Eotechs, and neither do I sell them, or recommend them to any of my customers. All of my professional customers that have them in their inventory, are in the process of returning them to the manufacturer, and replacing them with Aimpoints. And by professional customers, I am referring to those guys and gals that spend their lives kicking in doors and going toe to toe with bad people, I guess you would refer to them as "operators".

I happy for you if your sight works for you, what with you doing cqb and all.

If by fact, you are referring to the exact sight you own, it is unlikely that you will find anything posted about it online, unless you posted something about it.

If by fact, you are referring to Eotech sights in general, including the same model as the one you own, you are just showing your complete and utter ignorance, given that the manufacturer has admitted that the zero drift is a real thing. Maybe you should post your sight back to them so they can see what they did when they built your sight, and use that knowledge to fix all the other ones.

The feeling at CANSOF/JTF2 and other organizations is that this issue could sink the company (Eotech, not L3), and if that occurs, there will be nowhere for you to send your sight when you eventually experience an issue with it.

Regards.

Mark
 
Those of you who have mailed your sights back to Eotech might experience some delays in receiving confirmation of receipt from Eotech.

Apparently, the volume of sights being returned is overwhelming the local USPS office/depot responsible for delivering mail to Eotch in Anne Arbour.

They are currently delivering two truckloads of packages to Eotech every day, and have allegedly told Eotech to send their own truck to the post office to collect the packages themselves.

Also, the volume has resulted in some packages not being scanned by the postal carrier, and confirmation of delivery having to be confirmed by Eotech rather than the USPS.

Regards.

Mark
 
Thanks Mark.

Mine is on route. Hopefully the company doesn't declare bankruptcy before we see our checks. Odds are high if they are getting that many back.
 
MWL said:
Those of you who have mailed your sights back to Eotech might experience some delays in receiving confirmation of receipt from Eotech.

Apparently, the volume of sights being returned is overwhelming the local USPS office/depot responsible for delivering mail to Eotch in Anne Arbour.

They are currently delivering two truckloads of packages to Eotech every day, and have allegedly told Eotech to send their own truck to the post office to collect the packages themselves.

Also, the volume has resulted in some packages not being scanned by the postal carrier, and confirmation of delivery having to be confirmed by Eotech rather than the USPS.

Regards.

Mark
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Good point. Probably millions of them out there
 
Eotech is owned by L-3, a multi-million (billion?) dollar defense contractor. They might be willing to sacrifice Eotech to save the rest.

It may be cheaper for them to buy all the sights back rather tha defend a bunch of class action lawsuits. Having said that, there is already one in the works.

It will be interesting to see what happens at SHOT, they usually have a huge stand right in front of the Daniel Defense stand that is normally busy. Their stand at a recent defense show was a bit like a ghost town.

Regards.

Mark
 
Still alive said:
How can a company stay afloat sending out refunds left, right and centre in these numbers??
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Eotech is a division of L3 communications, who in 2014 reported $12.1 billion in sales. I think they have the financial backing to deal with the returns. What they can't calculate is what the award for class action lawsuits might be, which there is already one in the works. My bet is eotech/L3 is trying to refund as many purchases as possible in an attempt to minimize class action lawsuits. Then likely fold the division.

http://www.eotechlawsuit.com

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I do not have a receipt for mine anymore. Problem? Also what do you put on the claim form if you haven't noted an issue so far? I really like my current Eotech, previous ones have left me dissatisfied. I haven't seen any issues so far but don't want to be left with a piece of junk either.
 
No recipt required. Price should be whatever you remember paying for it, but not more than MSRP. If you have ever had to re-zero it when shooting, then it's losing zero, probably due to temperature fluctuations, so there is your reason, or you're having parallax issues, again with temperature changes. although zeroing your optic every range visit seems to be a common theme with Eotechs, it is not normally required with quality optics.

Regards.

Mark
 
What a joke......There gonna go tits up.....I wouldn't want my sight back just cash refund....there outta business the way this sounds......was so close to buying one last year too #### hope all works out for you......I even heard that company manufacturing these was buying containers full of knock off China garbage and shipping it out as genuine eotec and re selling the genuine ones for 1/3 markup.......I would be sick if I knew my 600$ eotec was 50$ China junk
 
albertacoyotecaller said:
I do not have a receipt for mine anymore. Problem? Also what do you put on the claim form if you haven't noted an issue so far? I really like my current Eotech, previous ones have left me dissatisfied. I haven't seen any issues so far but don't want to be left with a piece of junk either.
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In the reason field put "Require Refund", nothing more. They can likely pull up the price and the dealer that sold it based on serial # on the optic. No receipt or box required to submit the refund request.
 
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