husqvarna 9.3x57 to 250 savage

I think the OP means a m96 Mauser action, but even so it is more than able to handle factory and normal pressure .250 Savage ammo pressures as it is about the same as the 6.5x55mm that the M96 action was designed for.
 
mkrnel said:
Actually .30-06's parent case is 7x57mm as the US military and Springfield Armoury (original one) just took some captured Spanish 7x57mm M1893 Mauser rifles and their ammo taken during their war against the Spanish in Cuba and stretched the case a little and opened it up to .30 cal.

Before that all American military cartridges were rimmed.

Both the .30-03/.30-06 and Springfield rifles were blatant copies of superior German military technology that preceded them by at least a decade.

You often hear people quote that the .30-06 is the parent case when in fact it was the 7x57mm Mauser cartridge.
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I did not know that the -06 was a reworked 7 x 57.
But I tend to have 2 go-to authors; Keith and Waters. Waters stated that a 250-3000 was formed from the -06...so I would call the -06 parent case. That would make the 7 x 57 the grandparent...?
 
tokguy said:
I did not know that the -06 was a reworked 7 x 57.
But I tend to have 2 go-to authors; Keith and Waters. Waters stated that a 250-3000 was formed from the -06...so I would call the -06 parent case. That would make the 7 x 57 the grandparent...?
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Why do you think the 30-06 looks exactly like a slighty longer 7x57mm and they both have the same dimensions from the case shoulder back?

The Americans were very shocked and alarmed with their casualties in the first battle in Cuba against the Spanish forces their armed with 7x57mm M93 Mauser's and only beat the Spanish with sheer force of numbers of troops. After the war in 1899 they held a major investigation and decided to replace their recently adopted (1896, only 3 years earlier) .30-40R cartridge and Krag rifles with a US army owned Springfield Armoury design that was such a blatant copy of the Mauser rifle and cartridge that Mauser successfully sued the US government for patent infringement.

From a Wikipedia article -

"In October 1899, after reviewing the experiences of the Spanish–American War, U.S. Army ordnance authorities developed a new loading for the .30 Army used in the Krag rifle, in an attempt to match the ballistics of the 7×57mm Mauser cartridge employed by Spanish forces in that conflict.

The new loading increased the muzzle velocity in the rifle version of the Krag to 2,200 ft/s (670 m/s) at 45,000 psi. However, once the new loading was issued, reports of cracked locking lugs on service Krags began to surface. In March 1900 the remaining stocks of this ammunition (some 3.5 million rounds) were returned to the arsenals, broken down, and reloaded back to the original 2,000 ft/s (610 m/s) specification.


In 1903, after recommendations from the infantry Small Arms Board, the U.S. Army formally adopted a higher-velocity .30-caliber replacement for the .30-40 or .30 Army cartridge. The new cartridge was designated by its year of adoption, the .30-03."


.30-03 & .30-06 Springfield


"The Spanish-American War taught the U. S. War Department a valuable (albeit bloody) lesson about the merits of Mauser pattern bolt action rifles and the 7x57 cartridge. The result was the .30-03 Springfieldcartridge, basically an enlarged version of the 7x57 that was used by Spanish troops to wreak havoc on American soldiers."




.30-06 Dimensions





http://www.gundigest.com/ammunition...atest-cartridges-the-revolutionary-7mm-mauser
 
antiqueguy said:
most of the 9.3x57's I see are built on m96 actions including the one I own pretty sure that they are a small ring mauser action
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Funny how we get tunnel vision that way, what I have in my safe must be the norm. Hence the 98 comment. Truth be told, I've honestly never seen another 9.3 x 57, let alone a 9.3 x 62, they are quite rare in this neck of the woods.
You run across a few do you?
 
tokguy said:
Funny how we get tunnel vision that way, what I have in my safe must be the norm. Hence the 98 comment. Truth be told, I've honestly never seen another 9.3 x 57, let alone a 9.3 x 62, they are quite rare in this neck of the woods.
You run across a few do you?
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I have handled a few trade ex has a metric crap ton of them though a lot of them seem to be m96 actions
 
antiqueguy said:
I have handled a few trade ex has a metric crap ton of them though a lot of them seem to be m96 actions
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Most are made on M96 small ring actions because at the time of their peak popularity in Scandinavia the only action Husqvarna was using was the M94/M96 action, later when Husqvarna looked for a replacement action to make their sporting rifles on they settled for the Belgian FN M98 action which they only used for making 9.3x57mm rifles for a few years before switching to the 9.3x62mm.

That is why you see way more small ring 9.3x57mm rifles over M98 ones.

The 9.3x57mm was a obsolete cartridge by that point but there was still a large number in use, a bit like how the .303 is now obsolete but there are still plenty around in use.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Well, now that we have the definitive answer on that, back to the 250 question.
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I thought that question was already answered, yes you can use a M96 action to convert to .250 Savage but feeding may be a issue as the feed lips were probably opened up at front for the fatter 9.3x57mm cartridge, try a couple .250 rounds in the mag to see first.
 
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