(ON) Proposed Wolf, Coyote Rule to Benefit Moose

..... or we can be good little "law abiding" citizens and let it all go to s**t at the hand of our "leaders" who know better then we ever will. :rolleyes:
 
Big deal... they are just reverting to the way it was (and should be) for 50 years... this whole wolf/coyote licence/tag thing is only a few years old... now they should drop the limit and go back to the way it was, which was;

- hunting wolves/coyotes on a small game permit
- year round season on wolves/coyotes North of French and Mattawa Rivers
- NO limit
 
Big deal... they are just reverting to the way it was (and should be) for 50 years... this whole wolf/coyote licence/tag thing is only a few years old... now they should drop the limit and go back to the way it was, which was;

- hunting wolves/coyotes on a small game permit
- year round season on wolves/coyotes North of French and Mattawa Rivers
- NO limit

Agreed.... And wonder why the mattawa is a magical border in the first place....
 
Agreed.... And wonder why the mattawa is a magical border in the first place....

Because Ontario is too big to print it all on one side of a map so the map is folded in half at the French River and most liberals in southern Ontario have no idea that northern and northwestern Ontario even exist . We send them (extorted) our tax dollars and get absolutely nothing in return . I'm 1,010 miles from sis-in-laws place in the center of the universe (Toronto) and have more in common with the good folks of Iowa , Wisconsin , Minnesota and North Dakota than I do with anyone in Hogtown . I can be deer hunting in Iowa in 7 hours or make a 16 hour drive to Toronto to do nothing that i'm interested in .
 
Because Ontario is too big to print it all on one side of a map so the map is folded in half at the French River and most liberals in southern Ontario have no idea that northern and northwestern Ontario even exist . We send them (extorted) our tax dollars and get absolutely nothing in return . I'm 1,010 miles from sis-in-laws place in the center of the universe (Toronto) and have more in common with the good folks of Iowa , Wisconsin , Minnesota and North Dakota than I do with anyone in Hogtown . I can be deer hunting in Iowa in 7 hours or make a 16 hour drive to Toronto to do nothing that i'm interested in .
that sums it up very nicely. i live a hundred miles away and our area might as well be as far away as you live for all the respect we get from our overlords in the city.
 
According to Ontario Ministry of Resources, wolf estimates in Ontario are 7000-10,000 wolves. 2013 moose estimates were 89,756. However, nobody in the department really knows or cares because they haven't left their heated office to fly surveys. About 87,222 residents hunted for moose and 5,420 moose were harvested by residents (2,654 bulls, 1,262 cows, 1,594 calves). In 2014, general draw applications reach 96,720...an increase of nearly 10,000 people. Only 13% of applicants were drawn with 13,499 tags available. In 2015...9,051 rifle tags and 2,377 bow tags were available, for a total of 11,428 tags (5,939 of which were cows and calves).
Obviously with less than 1 moose for each licensed hunter and a wolf to moose ratio of 1 to 10 there needs to be a mature bulls only season (6 yr olds and older) for several years to allow calves to reach maturity and breeding females to reproduce a few times. You could easily shoot all the wolves and still have the same problem of undersupply of moose. When factoring in poaching, vehicle collisions and metis and aboriginal hunting, there is just too much mortality to allow moose populations to grow.
 
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