Just curious, but how many different powders have you tried in your 308win? Have you tried different powder charges of 748? Have you tried varying the seating depth?
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Just curious, but how many different powders have you tried in your 308win? Have you tried different powder charges of 748? Have you tried varying the seating depth?
why would I - I have a load that works well in MY rifle - it does everything although I do admit it's a little heavy for deer and gives acceptable accuracy- it's when you start to play ##### around that you get into trouble- I did do a ladder back in the 70's and found the acceptable back then - there's not many variables that change over the lifetime of a HUNTING rifle- therefore the load you developed way back then will work now with just a little tweeking
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I just wanted to verify that you were the type of person that just wanted a load that went bang, and didn't bother trying to develop the optimum load for his firearms.
Personally, I just don't see the point of owning an accurate rifle, if I can't be bothered to put in a little effort to achieve the accuracy that the rifle is capable of producing. Then again, if I didn't have a solid understanding of load development, I might be afraid to experiment, as you appear to be.
different strokes etc- why do you think I did a ladder back in the 70 starting load was 42 grains, top end was 45- I've got 1k bullets all 180 grain- I chose the 180 b/c I could also do elk, moose, and bear- I got 748 b/c I could get it in 25 lb kegs and it gave the best vel/pound at the time- I've still got most of that keg- to me your " experimentation" is both foolish and expensive and a damned good way to get into trouble
To start with, I likely demand more accuracy from my firearms, than you do, so in order to meet my standards, some experimentation is often required. Cost wise, load development means more trigger time with my firearms, which I consider money well spent. But since you say that you still have most of that same keg from the 70s, you probably consider shooting practice a waste of money. As far as foolish is concerned, if you don't understand load development, then for you, experimentation might be foolish, or dangerous, but for those of us that actually understand load development, it is neither.
there's a fellow you may be familiar with -his name is zediker- I used his loads as a yardstick and "improved" them slightly
but then again sometimes there's no point- I shoot a savage 99 and there's no way you can make THAT shoot like a bolt- so I accept what I've done re load development and leave it at that
but then again sometimes there's no point- I shoot a savage 99 and there's no way you can make THAT shoot like a bolt- so I accept what I've done re load development and leave it at that
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Thanks for all the advice, going to PM Bigbubba as he does not live too far, and may be able to help me out, didn't really appreciate comment " how thick can you be" in a response that was provided, I think we should be respectful of each other in this venue
Unless he developed those loads for your rifle, mentioning his name in an attempt to impress someone, is meaningless. But the fact that you don't appear to realize that, does prove your lack of understanding of the concept of load development.
it's not an attempt to impress-anymore than the loads came out of a pacific manual- not a lyman or other high end manual- oh sure , I had the time and money i'd have something like a Remington 40 x-b with a 12 power scope and a variety of match bullets and do a ladder on each and every powder and bullet listed and vary the seating off the lands , but that won't necessirly put meat in my freezer every winter- sometimes you have seconds to get the rifle out of the scabbard and take the shot
Because I did some load development. I had an $800 Tikka shooting five rounds into 1/2" at 100 yards with 130gr Nosler Accubonds. My $400 Vanguard in 243win is putting five rounds into 1" at 100 yards. My full stock Sako Carbine puts three Accubonds into 1/2" at 100 yards. These are all hunting rifles with hunting bullets. When I only have seconds to make the shot, I want as much precision as the rifle will deliver.
