How to use mod 70 safety

CanadaBoy said:
The way my 2 position safeties are set up there is a small hole in the rear of the cocking piece, to disassemble the bolt one simply puts a pin, small nail, or piece of wire through the hole while the safety is on, when the safety is disengaged the cocking piece can no longer move forwards and the bolt can be disassembled. The same system is used on the Husqvarna 1600 series rifles and the Brno ZG-47
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Sounds annoying compared to a 3 position, personally.
 
All this kerfuffle about how and when to use a safety? CGN needs to put on a Firearm safety course, and a common sense camp..... If anyone fails either you shall be banned from the EE unless you are posting WTS ads....
 
I use the middle position when I want to operate the bolt with live ammunition and not hear any BANGS

I will hunt with a round chambered-or not- depending on the circumstances. I don't call it a HOT CHAMBER because that term is too scary for me.
 
guido said:
I have never found a good purpose for a safety.
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just wait until you fall or drop your gun.we get s lot if snow ice or mud and a guy can slip so easy .Thank goodness for a safety when you are on your azz and your gun is sliding across the beaver pond . Dutch
 
If there's a device that aids in the prevention of surprising loud noises that can accompanied by mutilation, death, or legal troubles, I tend to use it. I've found it quite cheap to use at four times minimum per hunting day, even if you can accomplish most of the same prevention factor by not rotating the bolt closed as you cycle. You are right however in that unloading is not what I view the three position's greatest application to be either, I think it's most appreciated in bolt disassembly.
 
Vanguards have an even easier bolt to strip, believe it or not. Also have a three position safety. My Sakos strip fast, have a bolt lock release option too. Where they come up short is not blocking the striker. Since I still prefer the m70 safety it must be the striker block, trigger eliminating feature I appreciate most. Just a scope friendly Mauser when it comes down to it.

Who says you can't have it all?
 
The first Ruger mk 11 I had came as they do with a really stiff rough 3 pos safety much like model 70s of course. I took it for a walk into the weeds where my buddy had seen WT two bucks recently. I chambered a round and consciously put the safety in the middle position thinking that would be good MO for the task at hand. I'll never do that again when I got back to the truck I unshouldered the rifle and as I went to unload it saw that the safety was off. Brushed up against some brush obviously and it rocked forward. Always have it to the rear now, very low chance of it getting moved from there.
 
I was going to mention that my Ruger mk2 hawkeye in the Whelen has the 3 pis but I believe on my gun the Notches are a lot stiffer and I was confidently using the middle setting.

This is one reason I asked what the go was with this type of safety


Wl
 
Superbrad said:
Either you are hunting completely unloaded (and I use the term hunting loosely)

Or you wish to win a Darwin Award.......
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How is my gun going to go off when there is NO shell in the chamber???? You guys that rely on a safety are just accidents waiting to happen. In addition, some guns should have multiple safeties, others don't require any. It all depends on who is holding them.
 
guido said:
How is my gun going to go off when there is NO shell in the chamber???? You guys that rely on a safety are just accidents waiting to happen.
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So you don't hunt with a loaded chamber.... Fair enough.... Why not come out and say so like others instead of being all dramatic and cryptic?.....

I suppose you don't hunt upland or jump shoot ducks or running rabbits?.... In fact, I suppose you are not a shotgun we at all.....
 
Superbrad said:
All of you nervous nellies should check out the Ruger 3 position safety in detail if you are worried.....
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LOL. You're suggesting one of CGN and Canada's more prolific gunsmiths would hunt like you if he only understood the inner workings of M77 MIIs as well as you? This innernet thingy is so fun... ;)
 
LittleBoyLefty said:
LOL. You're suggesting one of CGN and Canada's more prolific gunsmiths would hunt like you if he only understood the inner workings of M77 MIIs as well as you? This innernet thingy is so fun... ;)
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Not suggesting that at all..... Sorry if I came off that way, not my intention...

All I was suggesting is that there are different models of safety out there and different forms of hunting.... And different geography to do it in..... If you aren't confident in your safety design perhaps it's time to check out another......

If someone wants to hunt upland with an over under and no rounds chambered because they don't have any confidence in their safety, thy can fill their boots..... But good luck
 
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LittleBoyLefty said:
LOL. You're suggesting one of CGN and Canada's more prolific gunsmiths would hunt like you if he only understood the inner workings of M77 MIIs as well as you? This innernet thingy is so fun... ;)
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Also, I am assuming you are referring to Dennis (guntech).... I agree with you, great and knowledgeable member..... But nowhere did he say to not have a round chambered and take the safety out of the equation....
 
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