How to use mod 70 safety

Well I can tell you one thing, Hoyt will shoot a grizzly this year, and bump into many more. I also suspect I won't be shot in the process. I suspect he's also pretty qualified to share thoughts already after learning about his experience at home, more so than I.

Meanwhile I also support an empty chamber and a full mag, uncocked, I carry a bolt action like that often when packing, and any hunting scenarios I don't need to be silent. Coastal grizzlies and blacktails are fifty yards in thick scrub type stuff, and an empty chamber doesn't always strike me as a good idea. In the end, just don't point the muzzle anywhere you don't want a bullet to go, empty or loaded, and we'll all be fine. As an aside, my favourite guns double rifles, don't take kindly to a full mag, empty chamber solution. I was also recently following the biggest set of coastal grizzly tracks I've come accross with my No.1, but couldn't catch up. It had a loaded chamber too, for that scenario, which is similar to what Hoyt offers in his example.
 
I like hunting with a round up top. If I'm hiking with a bunch of people, there is no bullet in the chamber.
If guys don't like it, they can hunt with someone else. No biggie to me...
 
chuck nelson said:
Horse feathers. I'm a lefty and can operate a bolt from the right side between using Lh rifles. You ought to be able to figure out a couple of safety's.
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Purest bull####. Not under pressure you can't. Watch guys who are used to single trigger guns switch to double triggers and watch how many pull the front trigger again. Even after years of casual shooting guys can still be rusty and pull the front trigger twice. Part of the reason some PHs view clients with double rifles with skepticism. They have invariably spent their lives shooting deer with bolt actions and when it comes time to use their shiny new double their brains turn reptilian on them and they pull the front trigger twice. Or they miss the safety because it's in an unfamiliar position.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Purest bull####. Not under pressure you can't. Watch guys who are used to single trigger guns switch to double triggers and watch how many pull the front trigger again. Even after years of casual shooting guys can still be rusty and pull the front trigger twice. Part of the reason some PHs view clients with double rifles with skepticism. They have invariably spent their lives shooting deer with bolt actions and when it comes time to use their shiny new double their brains turn reptilian on them and they pull the front trigger twice. Or they miss the safety because it's in an unfamiliar position.
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And yet PH's are able to proficiently use both. If you want to compare yourself to a rich client with a shiny new double that's fine. But I sure know what I can and can't use.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Purest bull####. Not under pressure you can't. Watch guys who are used to single trigger guns switch to double triggers and watch how many pull the front trigger again. Even after years of casual shooting guys can still be rusty and pull the front trigger twice. Part of the reason some PHs view clients with double rifles with skepticism. They have invariably spent their lives shooting deer with bolt actions and when it comes time to use their shiny new double their brains turn reptilian on them and they pull the front trigger twice. Or they miss the safety because it's in an unfamiliar position.
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you need a single trigger group on your express .... lol of course ....
 
chuck nelson said:
And yet PH's are able to proficiently use both. If you want to compare yourself to a rich client with a shiny new double that's fine. But I sure know what I can and can't use.
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Which PHs do you know that switch back and forth between doubles and bolts? Not switch once and don't go back, but switch back and forth as the wind blows?
 
tiriaq said:
In my shop, I occasionally saw Model 70 safeties that were defective. They could not be applied. To repair them, it was necessary to refit the surfaces that cause the cocking piece to be cammed back when the safety is applied. I do not recall one that would cause the rifle to fire when the safety was released - assuming that the trigger mechanism was properly set up, and the finger off the trigger.
The Model 70 safety design has small parts with critical engagements. Compare one with a Mauser.
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I know the scenario I describe is possible with Mauser - was wondering if it could also happen on the Winchester.
 
Sounds like no matter what anyone says, or has experienced, Chuck will tell them they are wrong and stupid. Lol

I have used dual trigger doubles all my life, and every type of safety known to man. I haven't messed up on anything but for a SxS with single trigger, almost every time I would try to find the rear trigger after firing the first barrel.....funny but annoying while duck hunting. 30 years with the same shotgun has spoiled me. Lol
 
The only "safety" thing that has messed me up is a borrowed OU that would put the safety on automatically. I missed some clays but there were no charging rhinos involved, so I'm still alive.
 
WhelanLad said:
As mentioned Muzzzle awareness is a Key..
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Keyboard Awareness is equally important here on CGN. :p

Muzzle Direction, hot chamber only when prey is anticipated.

Although I have been on many a hunt where the darn things pop out of nowhere, for my style of hunting - empty chamber works.

When stalking an animal, chamber hot, safety on.

This years moose, 30 yards.
 
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