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I did not feel the recoil at the time though after two shots, I looked into the scope and could see two targets. Fired the last one and got a one inch group on the money with the hold over. This morning my neck and shoulders felt like I had fallen down. My right eye is still getting reacquainted with its socket. Shooting handloads with 84.5 grams of type 75 blah blah blah powder and 180 grain nosler partitions.
I shoot my A7 in 30-06 no problem all day. But jaysus, stepping up was a huge wakeup call. Should have known when I saw the size of the Weatherby's gdamed bolt!
 
I can sympathize with your experience all too many times, last was after firing a 500 Jeffery.
Does this mean that we might watch the EE for that fine Weatherby ??
 
Was it a 300 WIN MAG or 300 weatherby? Weatherby guns are fairly heavy and a 300 win mag shouldn't be too tough if accustomed to a 30-06. Also, I load 76.5 grains of h4831 into my hot 300 WM loads and that's max case capacity, not sure of a powder that could get 84. If you're talking the weatherby it's a different beast that I have not had the pleasure to try just yet
 
I am zero recoil sensitive.... I can shoot anything, although a barrett 50 once gave me a nosebleed after 3 shots in 2 minutes.... And that is not to brag, but just to point out that not all rifles are for everyone..... I can't shoot anything with a monte carlo stock for example.... Maybe it is a poor fit?

My point is, if you bought the 300 with the intention of hunting it, do you have the intestinal fortitude to get it sighted in and then take it hunting?...... You can still have it for the purpose you bought it for and you wont notice the recoil when hunting and taking one or two shots with it......

That being said, if it makes you wince or flinch, move it along..... would much rather see a guy hunting with a .270 he can control than a .300 mag he can't..... just my two cents, which rounds down to zero now....
 
Of course Brad - you are the king. I did not buy it, I just shot it and its not for me and wasn't up for sale in any event. Of course I always carry a double set of maxi pads so I can dab my fanny with two and place the other two to my eyes. I didn't wince or flinch. But after two my right eye jellied so the third was my flier.
 
Sounds excessive for a .300 Win Mag though. In a rifle of reasonable weight they are maybe a little unpleasant to fire off sandbags but should not leave you sore after two shots. It may have been the stock fit, that can make a big difference.
 
Op, what was the rifle chambered in? If it was a 300 winchester magnum then 84 GRAINS of your "blah blah" powder is probably a bit much and it's likely causing a crazy pressure spike.
 
Of course Brad - you are the king. I did not buy it, I just shot it and its not for me and wasn't up for sale in any event. Of course I always carry a double set of maxi pads so I can dab my fanny with two and place the other two to my eyes. I didn't wince or flinch. But after two my right eye jellied so the third was my flier.

Lol.... Nowhere did I say I was "the king"..... I leave king designations for posts by Gatehouse.....

I am zero recoil sensitive based on my build..... I am 6 foot 210 pounds...... I sport a 30 inch inseam... It has its benefits.... On the plus side, I am not recoil sensitive..... On the down side, finding nice pants that don't drag on the floor sucks.....

To be clear, I don't consider it manly or awesome to be able to take recoil.... Manly is knowing your limitations and working within them.... Whether that be caliber choice, range etc.... I also fail to see the "other side of manliness" in which people wish to hunt with a sub par caliber to prove they can drop a large animal with a tiny bullet...

You may not have flinched, but after what you say you experienced, I likely would the next time I shot the rifle..... Knowing what was ahead so to speak....

I did miss the part where it wasn't your rifle, my bad....... Glad you didn't buy it based on the aftermath..... But I still think you would have a decent experience with .300 win mag if you shoot .30-06 etc without issue.....

I am a 300 yard max Hunter right now, and even that is with only some of my rifles..... I am a very novice reloader but I am really enjoying the possibilities...... Anyways, I digress....
 
I did not feel the recoil at the time though after two shots, I looked into the scope and could see two targets. Fired the last one and got a one inch group on the money with the hold over. This morning my neck and shoulders felt like I had fallen down. My right eye is still getting reacquainted with its socket. Shooting handloads with 84.5 grams of type 75 blah blah blah powder and 180 grain nosler partitions.
I shoot my A7 in 30-06 no problem all day. But jaysus, stepping up was a huge wakeup call. Should have known when I saw the size of the Weatherby's gdamed bolt!

Hmm, 84 grams of powder would certainly do that. You'd have found that 84 grains (5.4 grams) was easier on the body, on the rifle, and easier to stuff in the case.:p
 
Hmm, 84 grams of powder would certainly do that. You'd have found that 84 grains (5.4 grams) was easier on the body, on the rifle, and easier to stuff in the case.:p


LOL! I noticed that too but I figured he meant grains. 84.5 grams would definitely increase recoil, muzzle blast, and should have put someone in the hospital if it was possible to stuff it in the case. Lol
 
I have only one word of advice, if you find the 300 WM that unpleasant and objectionable to fire, avoid at all costs, trying a 300 RUM.
The Mark Vs I have owned and fired were not unbearable to shoot due to stock design, in fact Roy designed his stocks specifically to move away from the shooter under recoil and not bite the cheek. My 378, although certainly a handful, is not in any way objectionable and does not leave me with blurred vision, neither does my 470 NE. The 470 will leave my shoulder pocket a little tender for a couple days after 20 off the bags, as I did a few weeks back when sighting it in after building a base and mounting a scope on it, but I have shot 50 rounds in an afternoon standing without any negative consequences. My Steyr 50 BMG is downright pleasant to shoot, but it has a big tank style muzzle brake and I have not had the "cojones" to unscrew it and try it without. I fear it may break something on either the rifle or me and it's just not worth it.

Recoil conditioning is something that one must work into, I have owned and shot big bore heavy recoiling rifles most of my adult life but I did start out shooting my 243 for more than 10,000 rounds prior to my first biggy. My first real BG rifle was a 7 RM so a step up from the 243 but not a leap in the recoil department, from there I branched out and had several 338s and 375 H&Hs and then on up to a 416 Rigby and 458 WM. One must also keep in mind that I was shooting CF rifle at least 4-5 times a week and going through more than 10,000 rounds a year in all calibers combined. All this shooting does tend to desensitize one to recoil. I was also going through about twice that amount of CF pistol ammo per year, and a lot of that was full max 44 RM on the silhouette range, again just more desensitization.
 
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The Mark Vs I have owned and fired were not unbearable to shoot due to stock design, in fact Roy designed his stocks specifically to move away from the shooter under recoil and not bite the cheek...

I strongly concur. The 300 Weatherby in question is mine (I obviously need to poke around here a little more often!).

The load was 84.5 grains of IMR 7828, Fed 215 Primers and 180 grain Nosler partitions.
Rifle is a 1970 German Mark V - re-barreled with a fine cold rolled Belgian piece of steel @ 26 inches.

I did not find it overly uncomfortable to shoot, and was pleased with the performance. Nice tight groups and rather quick.
Did begin to feel it a little at round count 20, so passed it over to Cam.
Takes a bit of Learning to get on a belted mag after a 30-06. A little more practice and I am certain he will be fine. ;)

Ready to Roll for my impending Alberta Bull Elk hunt and I am Pacing in anticipation! :cool:

Cheers,
Nog
 
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